[rescue] Sun JavaStation Software

[JimStefanik SunRescue]

OK - I have more or less what I need.  The other guy on YouTube got back to
me.  The server management software itself seems to be unobtainium - he was
able to replicate all of its functions on a Debian box by sniffing the
traffic it generated in WireShare; which is pretty straight-forward.  Sun
documents pretty much everything too.  He got the binaries from this site:

https://www.dnd.utwente.nl/js/files/

I have mirrored that entire site including all of the Wikis and such and am
working on getting it up on the Wayback Machine as well; so there should be
at least 3 full copies of the site with docs & files pretty soon.


I will also work on getting the Sun doc pages mirrored (and hopefully
Wayback'd as well) over the weekend since I don't trust that Ellison's
Minions won't start dumping whatever is left of their Sun docs soon.

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:11 PM, JimStefanik SunRescue <
jstefaniksunrescue at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> Unfortunately Peter is correct - the software for the SunRay won't work
> with the JavaStation; although I did grab it since my copy of SRSS wasn't
> complete (I only had like 1 package file) - so you solved my (entirely
> unrelated) problem of making my SunRays work.  Sadly not what I need for
> the JavaStation though.
>
> The way I understand it is that the JavaStation netboots and require the
> special software be hosted on a server somewhere on the network.  On
> powerup, the JavaStation grabs an IP via RARP/BOOTP, then requests its
> bootcode via TFTP.  Once it has that and executes it, it uses DHCP to get a
> new IP, along with all of its configuration settings, which are passed as
> custom DHCP options.  One of the many options that gets passed is an NFS
> server path that hosts the JavaOS binaries, along with any other binaries
> it will run.  It pulls all of that down into RAM and starts up from there.
>
> I've seen some references to JavaOS being in flash, but I believe that's
> only for the later "Krups" model, not the original Mr. Coffee model.  The
> Krups model looks like a sharkfin, vs. the Mr. Coffee model is stuffed
> inside of a slightly modified Sun external 5.25" HDD/DVD enclosure.
>
> The software exists *somewhere*, since fairly recently - within the last
> 3-4 months - another guy on YouTube got one running and did a walk through,
> including WireShark captures of the boot process.  I've got an email out to
> him, so hopefully that will at least generate some leads.
>
>
> Thanks!
> -Jim
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 3:43 AM, Richard <ejb at trick-1.net> wrote:
>
>> Also according to the following
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaStation
>>
>> JavaOS should be on the flash...
>>
>> Does the unit POST when you turn it on?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On 19 Jul 2018, at 18:36, Richard <ejb at trick-1.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Peter,
>> >
>> > Yes description is correct - fresh off the CD in the last hour.
>> >
>> > Ah forgot about the difference. May not work.
>> >
>> > Richard
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On 19 Jul 2018, at 18:21, Peter Stokes <peter at ashlyn.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Richard
>> >>
>> >> If the description is correct, then that is the Sun Ray software, not
>> the
>> Java
>> >> Station which is a much older system and I would guess not supported
>> with
>> the
>> >> Ray software.
>> >>
>> >> I did run a Javastation at one point many years ago, I will try to
>> remember
>> >> what software I used.
>> >>
>> >> Peter
>> >>
>> >>> On 19 Jul 2018, at 10:13, Richard <ejb at trick-1.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Jim
>> >>>
>> >>> Try this, let me know if any issues getting the ISOs. They were made
>> with
>> >> WinImage if that helps.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sun Ray Server 3.1
>> >>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m3uB1s-ICtYvguQDuwYB0QpKBr6
>> X_aJk/view?usp=sh
>> >> aring
>> >>> Sun Ray Companion
>> >>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yZSdUjLECAfgzs8sZHhLCfWNjIc
>> N980-/view?usp=sh
>> >> aring
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards
>> >>>
>> >>> Richard
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, at 11:43 AM, Richard wrote:
>> >>>> I think I might have something....will look when I get home tonight.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, at 11:19 AM, JimStefanik SunRescue wrote:
>> >>>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I just recently picked up a Sun JavaStation 1.  I'm hoping someone
>> has
>> a
>> >>>>> copy of the server-side software to make it work.  I believe it's
>> called
>> >>>>> "Netra J"; but the docs are a bit fuzzy since Sun seems to have used
>> that
>> >>>>> name for both a physical server AND this software package.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I'd appreciate any help.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>> Jim Stefanik (aka FaultyWarrior pretty much everywhere)
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