[rescue] Sun JavaStation Software

[Andrew Liles]

I have one of these things laying around too and didn't have any luck with the
OG software either but I *was* able to netboot NetBSD on it, it supports Mr.
Coffee hardware out of the box. It netboots similar to other Sun machines of
the era but SunOS/Solaris doesn't have any support for it.

https://www.netbsd.org/ports/sparc/javastation.html

The closest I got to finding the OEM software is here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20010505052245/http://sunsite.tut.fi:80/javastati
on/jcdev/software/install/

I don't have any notes on what issues I ran into but I think there is a JavaOS
blob somewhere in the pkg tars there. Would be interested to see if others
have more luck.

-a

> On Jul 19, 2018, at 5:55 PM, JimStefanik SunRescue
<jstefaniksunrescue at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> OK - I have more or less what I need.  The other guy on YouTube got back to
> me.  The server management software itself seems to be unobtainium - he was
> able to replicate all of its functions on a Debian box by sniffing the
> traffic it generated in WireShare; which is pretty straight-forward.  Sun
> documents pretty much everything too.  He got the binaries from this site:
>
> https://www.dnd.utwente.nl/js/files/
>
> I have mirrored that entire site including all of the Wikis and such and am
> working on getting it up on the Wayback Machine as well; so there should be
> at least 3 full copies of the site with docs & files pretty soon.
>
>
> I will also work on getting the Sun doc pages mirrored (and hopefully
> Wayback'd as well) over the weekend since I don't trust that Ellison's
> Minions won't start dumping whatever is left of their Sun docs soon.
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:11 PM, JimStefanik SunRescue <
> jstefaniksunrescue at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> Unfortunately Peter is correct - the software for the SunRay won't work
>> with the JavaStation; although I did grab it since my copy of SRSS wasn't
>> complete (I only had like 1 package file) - so you solved my (entirely
>> unrelated) problem of making my SunRays work.  Sadly not what I need for
>> the JavaStation though.
>>
>> The way I understand it is that the JavaStation netboots and require the
>> special software be hosted on a server somewhere on the network.  On
>> powerup, the JavaStation grabs an IP via RARP/BOOTP, then requests its
>> bootcode via TFTP.  Once it has that and executes it, it uses DHCP to get
a
>> new IP, along with all of its configuration settings, which are passed as
>> custom DHCP options.  One of the many options that gets passed is an NFS
>> server path that hosts the JavaOS binaries, along with any other binaries
>> it will run.  It pulls all of that down into RAM and starts up from there.
>>
>> I've seen some references to JavaOS being in flash, but I believe that's
>> only for the later "Krups" model, not the original Mr. Coffee model.  The
>> Krups model looks like a sharkfin, vs. the Mr. Coffee model is stuffed
>> inside of a slightly modified Sun external 5.25" HDD/DVD enclosure.
>>
>> The software exists *somewhere*, since fairly recently - within the last
>> 3-4 months - another guy on YouTube got one running and did a walk
through,
>> including WireShark captures of the boot process.  I've got an email out
to
>> him, so hopefully that will at least generate some leads.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -Jim
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 3:43 AM, Richard <ejb at trick-1.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Also according to the following
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaStation
>>>
>>> JavaOS should be on the flash...
>>>
>>> Does the unit POST when you turn it on?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 19 Jul 2018, at 18:36, Richard <ejb at trick-1.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>
>>>> Yes description is correct - fresh off the CD in the last hour.
>>>>
>>>> Ah forgot about the difference. May not work.
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On 19 Jul 2018, at 18:21, Peter Stokes <peter at ashlyn.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Richard
>>>>>
>>>>> If the description is correct, then that is the Sun Ray software, not
>>> the
>>> Java
>>>>> Station which is a much older system and I would guess not supported
>>> with
>>> the
>>>>> Ray software.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did run a Javastation at one point many years ago, I will try to
>>> remember
>>>>> what software I used.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19 Jul 2018, at 10:13, Richard <ejb at trick-1.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try this, let me know if any issues getting the ISOs. They were made
>>> with
>>>>> WinImage if that helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sun Ray Server 3.1
>>>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m3uB1s-ICtYvguQDuwYB0QpKBr6
>>> X_aJk/view?usp=sh
>>>>> aring
>>>>>> Sun Ray Companion
>>>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yZSdUjLECAfgzs8sZHhLCfWNjIc
>>> N980-/view?usp=sh
>>>>> aring
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, at 11:43 AM, Richard wrote:
>>>>>>> I think I might have something....will look when I get home tonight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, at 11:19 AM, JimStefanik SunRescue wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just recently picked up a Sun JavaStation 1.  I'm hoping someone
>>> has
>>> a
>>>>>>>> copy of the server-side software to make it work.  I believe it's
>>> called
>>>>>>>> "Netra J"; but the docs are a bit fuzzy since Sun seems to have used
>>> that
>>>>>>>> name for both a physical server AND this software package.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd appreciate any help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Jim Stefanik (aka FaultyWarrior pretty much everywhere)
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