[geeks] Carly Fiorina to enter politics? This nation is doomed...

Charles Shannon Hendrix shannon at widomaker.com
Tue Sep 14 18:46:30 CDT 2004


Wed, 15 Sep 2004 @ 00:30 +0200, Jochen Kunz said:

> > And where does one get AT&T SysV?
> Good question. Who owns it today? SCO or maybe still Novel?
> Actually SysV as an OS of its own doesn't exist anymore.

What about the UNIX releases from Bell Labs after V7?

Were they released into the wild, or just internal use?

Wasn't V10 finished around 1990?

Google has an email from Dave McIlroy announcing the manual was avaiable
on 16 June 1990.

> > Just so long as you don't try to suggest that NT 3.51 is just as much
> > unix as anything else is.
> Well, NT 3.51 is POSIX. Isn't it? OpenVMS is POSIX too. ;-)

It's also C2 secure if you lock it in a room with no outside
connections.

> > Hey, it makes sense.  They are saying that their product will run on
> > the last AT&T release or Linux, and nothing else, right?
> Maybe I should clearify: Unix != UNIX. UNIX is SysV, the trademark and
> Unix is the paradigm.

Lawyer speak though.  UNIX was out before SysV, so defining UNIX as SysV
is not rationally useful.

Also, look at how many fairly varied OS can legally claim to be UNIX(TM)
these days.  What's the bloody point?

I have always hated using the word "Unix".  I understand the trademark
issue, but honestly... that trademark is so diluted now, does it even
matter any more?  I'm more interested in how UNIX something is in terms
of feel, tools, and code portability than I am who has paid the fee for
using the trademark.

It's no wonder Multicians and TOPS people are so gloomy these days... :)

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