Suzuki Samurai was Re: [geeks] SPARC proprietary (waaaay

[Dan Duncan]

As I recall, 'Kurt Huhn' wrote:
> > > So, one should slow down to, what, 10MPH or 20MPH?  
> > 
> > That would depend on the visibility.  Reduced far enough, 10MPH
> > might be warranted.
> > 
> 
> But not very practical.  If that's where your comfort level is, then go
> for it.  Me, I'm uncomfortable slowing to a crawl because there's a bend
> in the road.

The blind curve is unlikely to last forever, and I find driving
within my visibility highly practical.

> I have close to 1.5 million miles of driving behind me, how many do you
> have?  When you get up there, then we can talk about experience and
> whether you have more/better/whatever.

I drive 140 miles round trip to work 5 days a week on REAL roads
full of REAL stupid drivers.  I haven't broken the million mark
yet, but I'm more than halfway there.  Every time some knob refuses
to pay attention and rams someone, I pay for it as do the others
around me who have to wait traffic to get moving again.  It takes
money right out of my pocket and marbles right out of my head.  It
also kills in excess of 40 thousand people every year in this country.

I don't spend much time on the artificial treadmill you call a race track,
but if I want to inflate my mileage I may give it a shot.

> I see, well, you should probably have read the *entire* thread then.  I
> said, in another email, that I get my ass off the road if fog is so
> thick that I can't see far enough in front of me to maintain a safe
> speed for the road and what I determine other drivers are doing.  If I
> have to slow to 30MPH on the highway in order to stay within my
> visibility, then that's too damn slow and I need to get the fuck off the
> road before I cause an accident by going too slow.
> 
> I also do not overdrive my headlights, doing so is stupid and will get
> you killed.  
> 
> Happy?  I still fail to see where you wanted to go with that, unless it
> was a rhetorical question, posed in hopes of getting me to tell you to
> fuck off so that you could squeal "See!  See!  He didn't answer the
> question!"  

No, the question was posed in hopes you would answer it.  Clearly you
DO know better than to overdrive your visibility in certain situations.

Now that wasn't so hard, was it?

> > > > How on earth did you ever get a driver's license and how on earth
> > > > have you managed to KEEP one?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Ad hominem.  Fuck you.
> > 
> > Ad hominem?  Hardly.  You clearly show little understanding of
> > some very basic driving concepts, with the past history that should
> > have taught you otherwise, and I fully meant exactly what I asked.
> > 
> > Again your failure to answer the question is noted.
> > 
> 
> "I disagree with your argument.  Therefore you don't know how to drive."
>  That's not ad hominem?  o

It would be, IF I actually said it.  Which I didn't, of course.

> Your assertation that I know little about
> driving bears no weight, pal. 

Could you underline where I said that above?  I'm having trouble
finding that one, too.

> You have no basis for the statement
> except one assertation on my part and a couple of instances that I
> related to the list that ocurred nearly a decade ago.  

And your repeated refusal to slow down around a blind curve, which
I consider a basic driving concept.

> You've never been
> in a car with me, and you've never witnessed me driving.

And it's unlikely I ever shall.

> Get off your high-horse before it tosses you.
> 
> And why are you noting my failure to answer questions?  This isn't
> political debate, nobody's keeping score, and you're still a twat.

Should I toss out phrases in Latin here or just childish namecalling?
You make it look so fun.

> > > Nope.  The VW Rabbit had a backup mechanical backup system for
> > > brakes - coupled with a handbrake, and the fact that it's a manual
> > > transmission, made stopping with even somewhat short notice very
> > > easy without a primary brake system.  Truth is, with the VW Rabbit
> > > Diesel, I never had to use brakes until I was going about 5-10MPH,
> > > 97% of the time.
> > 
> > Wow, then you REALLY fucked up.
> 
> Why do you say that?  A panic stop and a stop with short notice are two
> entirely different things.  You're reading what you want and spouting
> garbage in reply.

But I'm having so much fun doing it.

> > > You nothing of what you speak.
> > 
> > I have a perfect driving record.  Perhaps you might take heed,
> > unless your goal is to ram as many other vehicles as possible.
> 
> Admitedly, I have pushed vehicles out of my way, when they pull in front
> of me and slamm on their brakes.  People don't expect you to actually
> hit them when they pull that shit.  They're really just trying to
> intimidate you in some childish show of power, but..."Oops, I couldn't
> find that brake pedal in time to keep from climbing up your rear window.
>  I have a witness that saw what you did though, and this LEO says you're
> at fault."  Heh, those are fun.

That might be fun, provided there was a witness and provided my vehicle
didn't sustain any real damage. It would still cost me a lot of time.

> But anyway, a perfect driving record doesn't make you a good driver. 
> The only thing it proves is that you haven't been cited for causing an
> accident (or getting a moving violation) yet.  That's as much a
> demonstration of statistics as anything else.

So what does actually having a record of causing accidents show?

> > Of course not, but the fact you plowed into the other car still
> > stands out.  There could have been any number of reasons for a car
> > ahead of you to stop (downed tree, another stopped vehicle, oncoming
> > vehicle in their lane, large animal in the road, child running after a
> > ball) and you are expected to leave enough of a safety buffer that
> > you can stop.
> 
> You're going to beat this one to death, aren't you?  Is this some sort
> of bid for power or something?   What are you trying to prove?

That following too closely is a bad idea, regardless of why the vehicle
in front may stop.

> > It sounds like the only out of control idiot in that panic stop
> > was you.
> > 
> 
> Oh go suck an egg through your ass, you ridiculous little twat.  

Again with the childish namecalling.

> Again, you attack me personally because you can't think of a better way
> to prove your argument.

It wasn't an attack.  I firmly believe that statement.

> Would you like to make $reference now so that
> we can kill the thread? 

If you'd like to kill the thread, feel free.  We're probably
not going to accomplish any more.

-DanD

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