[geeks] PayPal sucks...sometimes

[Thomas Gallaway]

Did you get the contact information from the seller? Tried to call him?  
I exactly
know the pain but the 2nd time something like this did happen to me  
ebay was
actually possible to recover everything besides $25.

Then on the other hand I hate ebay/paypal cause they are scumbags  
alongside
the scammers too.

Btw the internet fraud fbi thing does not work. They only care if the  
amount is
really huge. You can see if you can file a small claims thing but that  
only works
if you can show up at the court.

-- Thomas

On Dec 23, 2003, at 4:49 PM, Ido Dubrawsky wrote:

> I bought my daughter a wooden kitchen set off eBay at the beginning of  
> November
> with the intention of giving it to her for Hannukah.  The seller  
> turned out to
> be a scammer and has nailed not just me but also a bunch of other  
> people.  Like
> an idiot I paid with PayPal drawing the funds directly from my bank  
> account (I
> don't know why, I guess I was in the middle of paying a bunch of  
> credit cards
> off and I thought that I just didn't want to add this to the mix of  
> things...so
> I paid with cash/PayPal).  Dammit...so now I'm trying to negotiate  
> eBay's awful
> fraud/buyer protection system to try to get SOME money back.  What  
> irks me
> about PayPal is that they try to sort of "push" you into paying with  
> your bank
> account offering some "buyer protection" and what not.  I've learned  
> my lesson:
> never, ever do anything with eBay/PayPal without a credit card to back  
> it up.
> At least if I had used a credit card I could claim the charge was  
> fraudulent/
> invalid and get some shelter from eBay/PayPal's crappy system.  What a
> system.
>
> Ido
>
> P.S. And I really hope the seller rots...he's not only pissed me off  
> but a
>      bunch of others as well.  I wonder if I could get the other  
> buyers together
>      and contact his state's attorney general and file some sort of  
> criminal
>      action.  I'm thinking about filing mail fraud charges against him  
> with
>      the Internet Fraud Complaint Center.
> --  
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