[SunHELP] ping a port

David Baldwin sunhelp at sunhelp.org
Fri Sep 21 09:26:40 CDT 2001


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No HTML from what I can tell but I'm using Outlook too.
The damn thing cleans out my mail box on the server when filters are set
up or I would open it in netscape and tell you for sure.
Thanks for the explanation on the acronym, they kill me.
Dave
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-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Kropelin [mailto:Adam.Kropelin at netlinkaccess.com]=20
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 7:20 AM
To: 'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'
Subject: RE: [SunHELP] ping a port
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Heh, AFAIK, it means "As far as I know" (which sometimes isn't all that
far.
=20
By the way, are messages from me coming out in HTML or some crap like
that? I admit to using Outlook (I'm at work...) and though I've got the
fscking thing set to plain text in two different places (and messages
appear to be plain when they go out), when it comes back the text is
proportional and smells very non-plain.
=20
--Adam
	-----Original Message-----
	From: David Baldwin [mailto:dbaldwin at networkinsight.com]=20
	Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:07 AM
	To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
	Subject: RE: [SunHELP] ping a port
	I had read that and came to that conclusion.  But, what on earth
does AFAIK mean? This is the 3rd or 4th time I've seen that.
	Dave
	=20
	-----Original Message-----
	From: Adam Kropelin [mailto:Adam.Kropelin at netlinkaccess.com]=20
	Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 7:05 AM
	To: 'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'
	Subject: RE: [SunHELP] ping a port
	=20
	AFAIK, there is no such thing as a port in ICMP. ICMP packets
are demultiplexed by IP based on the value of the protocol field in the
IP header. The network stack is what responds to a PING (really an ICMP
echo request packet), not any particular application.
	--Adam=20
	> -----Original Message-----=20
	> From: Thomas Cameron [mailto:archimage at linux-magic.com]=20
	> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:35 AM=20
	> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org=20
	> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] ping a port=20
	>=20
	>=20
	> I don't think ping can hit any port other than the standard=20
	> ICMP port that it queries.=20
	>=20
	> Thomas=20
	> ----- Original Message -----=20
	> From: "David Baldwin" <dbaldwin at networkinsight.com>=20
	> To: <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>=20
	> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:55 PM=20
	> Subject: [SunHELP] ping a port=20
	>=20
	>=20
	> > Hi all,=20
	> > I am trying to find out how I can ping an ip through a=20
	> certain port on=20
	> > a firewall.  As a test I tried to telnet to the port on the
system=20
	> > with "telnet x.x.x.x port#" and it failed.  But if I try=20
	> "ping x.x.x.x=20
	> > port#" it goes through.  ICMP is allowed on its default=20
	> port but how=20
	> > can I change the port it tries?=20
	> >=20
	> > This is for standard "service alive?" checking.=20
	> >=20
	> > Thanks for any suggestions.=20
	> >=20
	> > Dave Baldwin=20
	> > _______________________________________________=20
	> > SunHELP maillist  -  SunHELP at sunhelp.org=20
	> > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sunhelp=20
	> >=20
	>=20
	> _______________________________________________=20
	> SunHELP maillist  -  SunHELP at sunhelp.org=20
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>No HTML from what I can tell but =
I’m
using Outlook too.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The damn thing cleans out my mail =
box on
the server when filters are set up or I would open it in <span =
class=3DSpellE>netscape</span>
and tell you for sure.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for the explanation on the =
acronym,
they kill me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dave<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Adam Kropelin
[mailto:Adam.Kropelin at netlinkaccess.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> =
</span></font><st1:date
Month=3D"9" Day=3D"21" Year=3D"2001"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Friday, September 21, =
2001</span></font></st1:date><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour=3D"7" Minute=3D"20"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:Tahoma'>7:20 AM</span></font></st1:time><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [SunHELP] =
ping a port</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Heh, AFAIK, it =
means
"As far as I know" (which sometimes isn't all that =
far.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>By the way,
are messages from me coming out in HTML or some crap like =
that? I
admit to using Outlook (I'm at work...) and though I've got the fscking =
thing
set to plain text in two different places (and messages appear =
to be
plain when they go out), when it comes back the text is =
proportional and
smells very non-plain.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>--Adam</span></fo=
nt><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> David Baldwin
[mailto:dbaldwin at networkinsight.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> =
</span></font><st1:date
Month=3D"9" Day=3D"21" Year=3D"2001"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Friday, September 21, =
2001</span></font></st1:date><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour=3D"10" Minute=3D"7"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:Tahoma'>10:07 AM</span></font></st1:time><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
sunhelp at sunhelp.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [SunHELP] =
ping a port</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I had read that =
and came
to that conclusion.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>But, =
what on
earth does AFAIK mean? This is the 3<sup>rd</sup> or 4<sup>th</sup> time =
I've
seen that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dave<o:p></o:p></=
span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>=
</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Adam Kropelin
[mailto:Adam.Kropelin at netlinkaccess.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> =
</span></font><st1:date
Month=3D"9" Day=3D"21" Year=3D"2001"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Friday, September 21, =
2001</span></font></st1:date><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour=3D"7" Minute=3D"5"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:Tahoma'>7:05 AM</span></font></st1:time><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [SunHELP] =
ping a port</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>AFAIK, there is no such thing as a port in =
ICMP. ICMP
packets are demultiplexed by IP based on the value of the protocol field =
in the
IP header. The network stack is what responds to a =
</span></font><st1:place><font
 size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>PING</span></font></st1:place><font
size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> (really an ICMP echo request =
packet),
not any particular application.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>--Adam</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> -----Original Message-----</span></font> =
<br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> From: Thomas =
Cameron [<a
href=3D"mailto:archimage at linux-magic.com">mailto:archimage at linux-magic.co=
m</a>] </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> Sent: =
</span></font><st1:date
Month=3D"9" Day=3D"21" Year=3D"2001"><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Friday,
 September 21, 2001</span></font></st1:date><font size=3D2><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><st1:time Hour=3D"9" =
Minute=3D"35"><font
 size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>9:35 =
AM</span></font></st1:time> <br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> To: =
sunhelp at sunhelp.org</span></font>
<br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> Subject: Re: =
[SunHELP] ping a
port</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> I don't think ping =
can hit any
port other than the standard </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> ICMP port that it =
queries.</span></font>
<br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> =
Thomas</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> ----- Original =
Message -----</span></font>
<br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> From: "David
Baldwin" <dbaldwin at networkinsight.com></span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> To:
<sunhelp at sunhelp.org></span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> Sent: =
</span></font><st1:date
Month=3D"9" Day=3D"20" Year=3D"2001"><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Thursday,
 September 20, 2001</span></font></st1:date><font size=3D2><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><st1:time Hour=3D"12" =
Minute=3D"55"><font
 size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>12:55 =
PM</span></font></st1:time> <br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> Subject: [SunHELP] =
ping a port</span></font>
<br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> > Hi =
all,</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> > I am trying to =
find out
how I can ping an ip through a </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> certain port on =
</span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> > a =
firewall.  As a
test I tried to telnet to the port on the system </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> > with =
"telnet x.x.x.x
port#" and it failed.  But if I try </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> "ping x.x.x.x =
</span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> > port#" it =
goes
through.  ICMP is allowed on its default </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> port but how =
</span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> > can I change =
the port it
tries?</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> ></span></font> =
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<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> > This is for =
standard
"service alive?" checking.</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> ></span></font> =
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<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> > Thanks for any
suggestions.</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> ></span></font> =
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<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> > Dave =
Baldwin</span></font>
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<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> > SunHELP =
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<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> ></span></font> =
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<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> SunHELP =
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