[SunHELP] On TNS and listener errors ???
MUHAMED, Mohd. Khairul
sunhelp at sunhelp.org
Wed Jul 25 20:04:24 CDT 2001
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Thanks Sebastien,
I don't think it is temporary because it has been happening every time =
I=20
want to setup my SQL client or start the RMAN backup.
What do you suggest I do. I am on solaris 7
Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: DAUBIGNE Sebastien - BOR [mailto:Sebastien.DAUBIGNE at sema.fr]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:42 ptg
To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
Subject: RE: [SunHELP] On TNS and listener errors ???
man -s2 intro
[...]
12 ENOMEM Not enough space
During execution of an exec, brk, or sbrk routine, a
program asks for more space than the system is able
to supply. This is not a temporary condition; the
maximum size is a system parameter. On some archi-
tectures, the error may also occur if the arrangement
of text, data, and stack segments requires too many
segmentation registers, or if there is not enough
swap space during the fork routine. If this error
occurs on a resource associated with Remote File
Sharing (RFS), it indicates a memory depletion which
may be temporary, dependent on system activity at the
time the call was invoked.
[...]
---
Sebastien DAUBIGNE=20
sebastien.daubigne at sema.fr - 05.57.26.56.36
Sema Global Services - AFM/DW/Pessac
-----Message d'origine-----
De: MUHAMED, Mohd. Khairul [SMTP:khairul_muhamed at astro.com.my]
Date: mercredi 25 juillet 2001 11:05
=C0: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
Cc: Azlanrizal ABD. RAHMAN
Objet: [SunHELP] On TNS and listener errors ???
Hi all,=20
Anybody has any idea why I keep getting this errors when I try to
start my oracle SQLNet or RMAN. Somebody at oracle suggested that this =
is a
resource issue on system level.=20
Thanks in advance=20
=3D=3Dfrom the vmstat and ulimit command=3D=3D=3D=20
oracle at pstksr01> vmstat 2=20
procs memory page disk faults
cpu=20
r b w swap free re mf pi po fr de sr f0 s1 s1 s1 in sy
cs us sy id=20
0 0 0 8240 18920 0 89 51 48 55 0 1 0 2 1 0 492 1413
624 1 1 98=20
0 0 0 1811080 21920 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 243 1270
594 0 0 100=20
0 0 0 1811080 21920 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1174 1205
570 0 2 98=20
0 0 0 1811080 21920 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 540 1206
572 0 0 100=20
0 0 0 1811080 21920 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 270 1259
590 0 0 100=20
0 0 0 1811080 21920 0 0 0 4 4 0 0 0 1 1 0 291 1287
624 0 1 99=20
0 0 0 1811080 21920 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 279 1442
765 0 0 100=20
oracle at pstksr01> ulimit=20
unlimited=20
oracle at pstksr01>=20
=3D=3Dfrom the listener.log=3D=3D=3D=20
25-JUL-2001 15:51:27 * service_died * 0=20
25-JUL-2001 15:52:29 * service_died * 0=20
25-JUL-2001 15:53:30 * service_died * 0=20
25-JUL-2001 15:54:32 * service_died * 0=20
25-JUL-2001 15:55:34 * service_died * 0=20
25-JUL-2001 15:55:34 *
(CONNECT_DATA=3D(SERVICE_NAME=3DDP51)(CID=3D(PROGRAM=3D)(HOST=3Dpstksr01=
)(USER=3Doracl=20
e))) * =
(ADDRESS=3D(PROTOCOL=3Dtcp)(HOST=3D172.27.105.12)(PORT=3D46322)) *
establish * DP51 * 12500=20
TNS-12500: TNS:listener failed to start a dedicated server process=20
TNS-12540: TNS:internal limit restriction exceeded=20
TNS-12560: TNS:protocol adapter error=20
TNS-00510: Internal limit restriction exceeded=20
Solaris Error: 12: Not enough space=20
25-JUL-2001 15:56:35 * service_died * 0=20
25-JUL-2001 15:57:37 * service_died * 0=20
25-JUL-2001 15:58:39 * service_died * 0=20
25-JUL-2001 15:59:40 * service_died * 0=20
25-JUL-2001 16:00:42 * service_died * 0=20
25-JUL-2001 16:01:43 * service_died * 0=20
25-JUL-2001 16:02:10 *
(CONNECT_DATA=3D(SERVICE_NAME=3DDP51)(CID=3D(PROGRAM=3D)(HOST=3Dpstksr01=
)(USER=3Doracl=20
e))) * =
(ADDRESS=3D(PROTOCOL=3Dtcp)(HOST=3D172.27.105.12)(PORT=3D46353)) *
establish * DP51 * 12500=20
TNS-12500: TNS:listener failed to start a dedicated server process=20
TNS-12540: TNS:internal limit restriction exceeded=20
TNS-12560: TNS:protocol adapter error=20
TNS-00510: Internal limit restriction exceeded=20
Solaris Error: 12: Not enough space=20
25-JUL-2001 16:02:45 * service_died * 0=20
25-JUL-2001 16:03:47 * service_died * 0=20
25-JUL-2001 16:04:48 * service_died * 0=20
25-JUL-2001 16:05:50 * service_died * 0=20
=3D=3Dfrom the sqlnet.log=3D=3D=3D=20
Fatal NI connect error 12500, connecting to:=20
=09
(DESCRIPTION=3D(ADDRESS=3D(PROTOCOL=3DTCP)(HOST=3D172.27.105.12)(PORT=3D=
1521))(CONNECT
_DATA=3D(SERVICE_NAME=3D=20
DP51)(CID=3D(PROGRAM=3D)(HOST=3Dpstksr01)(USER=3Doracle))))=20
VERSION INFORMATION:=20
TNS for Solaris: Version 8.1.6.0.0 - Production=20
TCP/IP NT Protocol Adapter for Solaris: Version 8.1.6.0.0 -
Production=20
Time: 25-JUL-2001 16:02:10=20
Tracing not turned on.=20
Tns error struct:=20
nr err code: 0=20
ns main err code: 12564=20
TNS-12564: TNS:connection refused=20
ns secondary err code: 0=20
nt main err code: 0=20
nt secondary err code: 0=20
nt OS err code: 0=20
=3D=3Dfrom the backup log=3D=3D=3D=20
Recovery Manager: Release 8.1.6.1.0 - Production=20
RMAN-00571:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20
RMAN-00569: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ERROR =
MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20
RMAN-00571:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20
RMAN-00554: initialization of internal recovery manager package
failed=20
RMAN-04005: error from target database: ORA-12500: TNS:listener
failed to start a dedicated server process=20
Regards,=20
Mohd Khairul Muhamed=20
IT Services Division=20
MEASAT Broadcast Network Systems=20
Tel : 03 9543 6688 x 8035=20
Fax : 03 9543 6874=20
Visit us at http://www.astro.com.my <http://www.astro.com.my> =20
=09
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks Sebastien,</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I don't think it is temporary because it has been =
happening every time I </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>want to setup my SQL client or start the RMAN =
backup.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>What do you suggest I do. I am on solaris 7</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: DAUBIGNE Sebastien - BOR [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Sebastien.DAUBIGNE at sema.fr">mailto:Sebastien.DAUBIGNE at sem=
a.fr</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:42 ptg</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: [SunHELP] On TNS and listener errors =
???</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2> man -s2 intro</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>[...]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>12 ENOMEM Not enough space</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2> &nb=
sp; During execution of an exec, brk, or sbrk routine, a</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2> &nb=
sp; program asks for more space than the system is =
able</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2> &nb=
sp; to supply. This is not a temporary =
condition; the</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2> &nb=
sp; maximum size is a system parameter. On some =
archi-</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2> &nb=
sp; tectures, the error may also occur if the arrangement</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2> &nb=
sp; of text, data, and stack segments requires too =
many</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2> &nb=
sp; segmentation registers, or if there is not =
enough</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2> &nb=
sp; swap space during the fork routine. If this =
error</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2> &nb=
sp; occurs on a resource associated with =
Remote File</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2> &nb=
sp; Sharing (RFS), it indicates a memory depletion which</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2> &nb=
sp; may be temporary, dependent on system activity at the</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2> &nb=
sp; time the call was invoked.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>[...]</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>---</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sebastien DAUBIGNE </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>sebastien.daubigne at sema.fr - 05.57.26.56.36</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sema Global Services - AFM/DW/Pessac</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>-----Message d'origine-----</FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>De: MUHAMED, Mohd. Khairul =
[SMTP:khairul_muhamed at astro.com.my]</FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>Date: mercredi 25 juillet 2001 11:05</FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>=C0: sunhelp at sunhelp.org</FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>Cc: Azlanrizal ABD. RAHMAN</FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>Objet: [SunHELP] On TNS and listener errors ???</FONT>
</P>
<P> <FONT SIZE=3D2>Hi all, =
</FONT>
</P>
<P> <FONT SIZE=3D2>Anybody =
has any idea why I keep getting this errors when I try to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>start my oracle SQLNet or RMAN. Somebody at oracle =
suggested that this is a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>resource issue on system level. </FONT>
</P>
<P> <FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks in =
advance </FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<P> <FONT SIZE=3D2>=3D=3Dfrom =
the vmstat and ulimit command=3D=3D=3D </FONT>
</P>
<P> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>oracle at pstksr01> vmstat 2 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2> =
procs =
memory =
page =
disk =
faults</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>cpu </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2> r b =
w swap free re mf pi po fr de sr f0 s1 s1 =
s1 in sy</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>cs us sy id </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2> 0 0 =
0 8240 18920 0 89 51 48 55 0 =
1 0 2 1 0 492 1413</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>624 1 1 98 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2> 0 0 =
0 1811080 21920 0 1 0 0 0 =
0 0 0 0 1 0 243 1270</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>594 0 0 100 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2> 0 0 =
0 1811080 21920 0 0 0 0 0 =
0 0 0 0 1 0 1174 1205</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>570 0 2 98 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2> 0 0 =
0 1811080 21920 0 0 0 0 0 =
0 0 0 0 0 0 540 1206</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>572 0 0 100 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2> 0 0 =
0 1811080 21920 0 0 0 0 0 =
0 0 0 0 1 0 270 1259</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>590 0 0 100 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2> 0 0 =
0 1811080 21920 0 0 0 4 4 =
0 0 0 1 1 0 291 1287</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>624 0 1 99 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2> 0 0 =
0 1811080 21920 0 0 0 0 0 =
0 0 0 0 0 0 279 1442</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>765 0 0 100 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>oracle at pstksr01> ulimit </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2>unlimited =
</FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>oracle at pstksr01> </FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P> <FONT SIZE=3D2>=3D=3Dfrom =
the listener.log=3D=3D=3D </FONT>
</P>
<P> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 15:51:27 * service_died * 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 15:52:29 * service_died * 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 15:53:30 * service_died * 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 15:54:32 * service_died * 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 15:55:34 * service_died * 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 15:55:34 *</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2>(CONNECT_DATA=3D(SERVICE_NAME=3DDP51)(CID=3D(PROGRAM=3D)(HOST=3D=
pstksr01)(USER=3Doracl </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2>e))) * =
(ADDRESS=3D(PROTOCOL=3Dtcp)(HOST=3D172.27.105.12)(PORT=3D46322)) =
*</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>establish * DP51 * 12500 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>TNS-12500: TNS:listener failed to start a dedicated server =
process </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2> =
TNS-12540: TNS:internal limit restriction exceeded </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2> =
TNS-12560: TNS:protocol adapter error </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> TNS-00510: Internal limit restriction exceeded =
</FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> Solaris Error: 12: Not enough space </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 15:56:35 * service_died * 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 15:57:37 * service_died * 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 15:58:39 * service_died * 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 15:59:40 * service_died * 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 16:00:42 * service_died * 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 16:01:43 * service_died * 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 16:02:10 *</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2>(CONNECT_DATA=3D(SERVICE_NAME=3DDP51)(CID=3D(PROGRAM=3D)(HOST=3D=
pstksr01)(USER=3Doracl </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2>e))) * =
(ADDRESS=3D(PROTOCOL=3Dtcp)(HOST=3D172.27.105.12)(PORT=3D46353)) =
*</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>establish * DP51 * 12500 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>TNS-12500: TNS:listener failed to start a dedicated server =
process </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2> =
TNS-12540: TNS:internal limit restriction exceeded </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2> =
TNS-12560: TNS:protocol adapter error </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> TNS-00510: Internal limit restriction exceeded =
</FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> Solaris Error: 12: Not enough space </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 16:02:45 * service_died * 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 16:03:47 * service_died * 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 16:04:48 * service_died * 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>25-JUL-2001 16:05:50 * service_died * 0 </FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<P> <FONT SIZE=3D2>=3D=3Dfrom =
the sqlnet.log=3D=3D=3D </FONT>
</P>
<P> <FONT SIZE=3D2>Fatal NI =
connect error 12500, connecting to: </FONT>
<BR> =20
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2>(DESCRIPTION=3D(ADDRESS=3D(PROTOCOL=3DTCP)(HOST=3D172.27.105.12=
)(PORT=3D1521))(CONNECT</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>_DATA=3D(SERVICE_NAME=3D </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>DP51)(CID=3D(PROGRAM=3D)(HOST=3Dpstksr01)(USER=3Doracle)))) =
</FONT>
</P>
<P> <FONT SIZE=3D2> =
VERSION INFORMATION: </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> TNS for Solaris: =
Version 8.1.6.0.0 - Production </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> TCP/IP NT Protocol =
Adapter for Solaris: Version 8.1.6.0.0 -</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Production </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2> =
Time: 25-JUL-2001 16:02:10 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2> =
Tracing not turned on. </FONT>
<BR> <FONT SIZE=3D2> =
Tns error struct: </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> nr err code: 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> ns main err code: 12564 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> TNS-12564: TNS:connection refused </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> ns secondary err code: 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> nt main err code: 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> nt secondary err code: 0 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> nt OS err code: 0 </FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P> <FONT SIZE=3D2>=3D=3Dfrom =
the backup log=3D=3D=3D </FONT>
</P>
<P> <FONT SIZE=3D2>Recovery =
Manager: Release 8.1.6.1.0 - Production </FONT>
</P>
<P> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>RMAN-00571:</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>RMAN-00569: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =
ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =
</FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>RMAN-00571:</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>RMAN-00554: initialization of internal recovery manager =
package</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>failed </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>RMAN-04005: error from target database: ORA-12500: =
TNS:listener</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>failed to start a dedicated server process </FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<P> <FONT SIZE=3D2>Regards, =
</FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> Mohd Khairul Muhamed </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> IT Services Division </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> MEASAT Broadcast Network Systems =
</FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> Tel : 03 9543 6688 x 8035 =
</FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> Fax : 03 9543 6874 </FONT>
<BR> <FONT =
SIZE=3D2> Visit us at <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.astro.com.my" =
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TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.astro.com.my</A>> </FONT>
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<BR>
<P> =20
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>SunHELP maillist - =
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