[rescue] Picked up an IBM / Tadpole RS6000/N40, xinit hangs system.

Andy Wallis rawallis at panix.com
Sun Sep 7 19:09:10 CDT 2014


When you run X manually, does it show up in the process list on when you
telnet into the box?

> On Sep 7, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Ian Finder <ian.finder at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hmm. The xserver never starts despite the HFT hanging, so that's not
> it. (ps -e on my remote console shows no X process).
>
> The xinitrcs are all sane.
>
> ---
>
> The output of xinit is simply "1356-824  xinit: Unable to start the X
server"
>
> There is no difference in the process list from before I run xinit and
> after the hft terminal hangs.
>
> Weird stuff.
>
>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Andy Wallis <rawallis at panix.com> wrote:
>> Does control-alt-backspace work? By default, it will kill the X server.
>> Check /usr/lpp/X11/defaults/xinitrc to see if it is starting mwm and
aixterm.
>> /usr/lpp/X11/xinit should also be checked.
>>
>> Lastly, see if if $HOME/.xinitrc is OK.
>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2014, at 7:35 PM, Ian Finder <ian.finder at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Gaz & Andy for all for the help!
>>>
>>> The drivers appear to be installed-- diag for wgs0 passes, and the
>>> fbconfigurations file is sane. Same symptom persists.
>>>
>>> Tried bosboot -ad /dev/ipldevice and it still doesn't work. I tried #
>>> X > /tmplog ; and cat tmplog from my remote console.
>>>
>>> Doesn't seem to produce any errors or output.
>>>
>>> Any other ideas on how to potentially tell what is failing? X does not
>>> appear to be running after running I run xinit.
>>>
>>> - Ian
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Gaz God <gaz.god at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> One of the files i'm emailing is a fbconfigurations.N40.
>>>>
>>>> But my ADSL is running at super slow!!
>>>>
>>>> Expect an email soonish Ian.
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:34 PM, Andy Wallis <rawallis at panix.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like the N40 originally ran a special version of AIX 3.2.5. I
>> was
>>>>> thinking about the other RS/6000 laptop which had the AIX 4.2.1 special
>>>>> version. I do apologize for the confusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did find this tidbit that could be useful.
>>>>> http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohlandl/7007/7007-n40.html
>>>>> "When you bring up NCE Display panel, no display types listed.
>>>>> Cause:  The /etc/fbconfigurations file can get zero'd out when written
>>>>> back to
>>>>> disk from memory. Get fbconfigurations.N40 then make a copy just in
>> case."
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>> -Andy Wallis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2014, at 6:23 PM, Andy Wallis <rawallis at panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If wgs0 comes back as available, then you might need to run the diag
>>>>> command
>>>>>> to run the tests for it.
>>>>>> Barring that, try running bosboot -ad as a sanity check.
>>>>>> -Andy Wallis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Gaz God <gaz.god at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a copy of P2.upg.tar.Z which has a the drivers in it for the
N40
>>>>>>> here, if that is any help it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gaz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Ian Finder <ian.finder at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm running 3.3. NCE is installed so I thought it would be
>>>>>>>> tadpole-friendly. I have hft0, and wgs0 - "Standard colour graphics
>>>>>>>> adapter"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I guess that means I have no drivers...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :(
>>>>>>>> ;_;
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Andy Wallis <rawallis at panix.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Try the following
>>>>>>>>> cfgmgr to initialize the installed device drivers.
>>>>>>>>> lsdev -C and see if the graphics card and lft/hft are Available. If
>> it
>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> defined, the driver isn't loaded and just has an ODM entry(there be
>>>>>>>> dragons).
>>>>>>>>> Are you running AIX 4.2.1 with the special Tadpole drivers or is it
>>>>> 4.3?
>>>>>>>> 4.3
>>>>>>>>> dropped support for the Tadpole and you cannot run X due to that.
>>>>>>>>> -Andy Wallis
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Ian Finder <ian.finder at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok... I can only run xinit from the local console- and when I do
so,
>>>>>>>>>> it hangs but my remote console still responds. Being an AIX noob,
>>>>>>>>>> where are the logs I should be looking at.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Barry Callahan <
>>>>> barryc at rjlsystems.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Start by hanging a serial console off the thing, so when the
>> console
>>>>>>>> locks
>>>>>>>>>>> up you can still interact with the machine and investigate?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or put the thing on your network?
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/7/2014 4:33 PM, Ian Finder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Recently picked this up, but running X or startx or xinit causes
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> system console to hang / freeze completely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any good ideas on how to diagnose/fix?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not an AIX guy :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ian
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> ian.finder at gmail.com
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