[rescue] Compaq Proliant 8000

[Dave McGuire]

On Apr 30, 2004, at 2:16 PM, Charles Shannon Hendrix wrote:
>> In the past year, I have purchased the following, all for < $150:
>
> Wow, good price.  I've never found deals like that yet.
>
> But understand that the original argument I presented was that 
> replacing
> PCs with workstations was hard because PCs are cheap power.

   ...but not too much power.

> The machines you list are all fine machines, but you can get a lot more
> PC power now, and its also quite cheap.

   Again, not much in the way of power.  But perhaps I'm used to a bit 
more.

> The average joe doesn't know where to look for these, and there aren't
> enough to go around.

   The average joe doesn't use eBay?  That's pretty funny.  My aunt uses 
eBay all the time, and until recently, she wasn't even aware that she 
was using the Internet to get to it.

> Consider that you want to wean a group of 500 users off of PCs.
>
> Let's say they all have Athlon systems like mine.  Fairly fast, but 
> they
> want something faster, or whatever.
>
> Where am I going to find 500 UNIX workstations that will meet
> the criteria:
>
> * they will be faster at their desktop apps
> * they can run the applications they need
> * the cost will be in line with a decent PC upgrade
>
> To avoid an applications issue, assume they currently run Linux.
>
> I don't think you can currently get a workstation solution installed
> that won't cost a lot more than PCs of the same power.  You can't eBay
> for that many machines.  FOr that matter, getting 20 might be hard.

   Bullshit.  There are frequently large lots of identical machines on 
eBay.  eBay is a favorite means of disposal for leasing companies.  A 
company a few miles from my old house, in fact, sold FOUR HUNDRED 
Ultra60s in one lot last summer.

   This is not the norm, but it isn't unheard of.

   You are stuck in the "PCs are cheaper" cargo cult.  I would try to 
help you, but you don't seem interested in learning.

         -Dave

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Dave McGuire          "PC users only know two 'solutions'...
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