[rescue] San Antonio, TX area rescue

vance at neurotica.com vance at neurotica.com
Tue Nov 26 13:23:02 CST 2002


On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Patrick Giagnocavo +1.717.201.3366 wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 02:23:31AM -0500, Chris Hedemark wrote:
> > > Maybe overall it would be cheaper to run a single S390.
> >
> > Maybe.  Maybe not.  How many servers are you replacing?  And what are
> > they doing?
>
> A custom "web application server" type app, with builtin web server,
> plus database hooks.  Not Java.
>
> Big thing is that I can get a lot more money by selling a virtual
> server than a shared server.  So I must give them something that looks
> like its own server, with its own root password, etc.
>
> > Some of the larger Sun boxes may be more appropriate.  Or a big
> > RS/6000.  Depends on what you're doing.  s/390 doesn't have snappy CPU
>
> I don't think they do this kind of virtualization as well.  I know the
> big Sun boxes can partition themselves out to 16 virtual servers, but
> that is not enough servers per dollar.  Note:  I am cheap :-)
>
> > performance but I/O is obscenely fast.  Also s/390 will perform
>
> Since the bottleneck is the database (Postgres in this case) that is
> OK.

Sounds like a good application for an S/390, but only if you are replacing
a large quantity of server.

> > consistently well as you scale up its load.  But unless we're talking
> > about replacing hundreds of PC servers, it might be extreme overkill
> > (not to mention the cost....... yikes!)
>
> That's why I am asking about the price.  New - I cannot afford; used -
> dunno.

You can get a complete hardware configuration for less than 5 grand, but
the software licensing (for VM) will be more.

Peace...  Sridhar



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