[rescue] sunpci note: TWO cards now available

Gary Nichols garynichols at mysun.com
Sun Jan 27 07:55:18 CST 2002


Ok - now I see the point you were making.  Valid points.  I myself 
wonder wtf they were thinking with their version of crontab 
maintenance files.  

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Sandau <ssandau at bath.tmac.com>
Date: Saturday, January 26, 2002 7:09 pm
Subject: Re: [rescue] sunpci note: TWO cards now available

> > > The Red guys
> > > put any configurable option/file as far away from the user as
> > > possible.It is similar to Windows in that it tries to make
> > > everything automatic.
> > 
> > And this is a bad thing?  From a new user perspective, this 
> might be a
> > good thing.  For *nix heads, locating the files to adjust isn't a
> > struggle at all.  Grep and ye shall find.
> 
> Not true. See below.
> > 
> > > Nice thought, but it means at least twice as much work when the
> > > automatic crap fails, as it is wont to do often. Figuring out
> > > where to
> > > load the kernel module for a NIC (that's not auto-detected) for
> > > example,is a real pain. Adding and configuring a second NIC w/o
> > > the GUI is also
> > > a pain.
> > 
> > How hard is 'insmod modulename' and adding the appropriate entry to
> > modules.conf?   Or creating /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-
> eth1> by duplicating ifcfg-eth0 and changing the entries?  8-)
> 
> It's not the doing, it's the *finding*. Red Hat has directories with
> links to other files in other directories that use variables set in
> other files that are links to other files and so on. In that case, 
> grepcomes up empty-handed if you're not in the directory with the 
> configfile that has the variables set in it.
> 
> I had an easier time moving from a system setup to Solaris than I 
have
> trying to figure out Red Hat.
> 
> And no, automatic isn't bad for everyman necessarily, but 
> personally, I
> prefer setting many things up manually from the start. That way 
> if/whenthey go bad or need changes, they're not so tough to find.
> 
> Just my opinion, but I do think that RedHat is more difficult than
> necessary. Slackware, on the other hand, puts all the startup 
> scripts in
> one directory. Now *there* you can grep and find. Red Hat doesn't 
even
> put all the crontab entries in the crontab. They're in files for
> daily/weekly/hourly execution. Might be easier for someone who 
doesn't
> know so much about *nix, but I *like* to have all the
> hourly/weekly/daily stuff in *one* file. I know I can put it 
> there, but
> I'd rather start out with a simple setup....
> 
> -- 
> Steve Sandau
> ssandau at bath.tmac.com
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