[rescue] sunpci note: TWO cards now available

bill pointon wpointon at earthlink.net
Sat Jan 26 20:28:13 CST 2002


boy it sure is good to hear from someone -- didnt get any list messages 
for ~ 4 hrs -- everything ok mrbill ??
---- billp
On Saturday, January 26, 2002, at 09:09 , Steve Sandau wrote:

>>> The Red guys
>>> put any configurable option/file as far away from the user as
>>> possible.It is similar to Windows in that it tries to make
>>> everything automatic.
>>
>> And this is a bad thing?  From a new user perspective, this might be a
>> good thing.  For *nix heads, locating the files to adjust isn't a
>> struggle at all.  Grep and ye shall find.
>
> Not true. See below.
>>
>>> Nice thought, but it means at least twice as much work when the
>>> automatic crap fails, as it is wont to do often. Figuring out
>>> where to
>>> load the kernel module for a NIC (that's not auto-detected) for
>>> example,is a real pain. Adding and configuring a second NIC w/o
>>> the GUI is also
>>> a pain.
>>
>> How hard is 'insmod modulename' and adding the appropriate entry to
>> modules.conf?   Or creating /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1
>> by duplicating ifcfg-eth0 and changing the entries?  8-)
>
> It's not the doing, it's the *finding*. Red Hat has directories with
> links to other files in other directories that use variables set in
> other files that are links to other files and so on. In that case, grep
> comes up empty-handed if you're not in the directory with the config
> file that has the variables set in it.
>
> I had an easier time moving from a system setup to Solaris than I have
> trying to figure out Red Hat.
>
> And no, automatic isn't bad for everyman necessarily, but personally, I
> prefer setting many things up manually from the start. That way if/when
> they go bad or need changes, they're not so tough to find.
>
> Just my opinion, but I do think that RedHat is more difficult than
> necessary. Slackware, on the other hand, puts all the startup scripts in
> one directory. Now *there* you can grep and find. Red Hat doesn't even
> put all the crontab entries in the crontab. They're in files for
> daily/weekly/hourly execution. Might be easier for someone who doesn't
> know so much about *nix, but I *like* to have all the
> hourly/weekly/daily stuff in *one* file. I know I can put it there, but
> I'd rather start out with a simple setup....
>
> --
> Steve Sandau
> ssandau at bath.tmac.com
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