[SunRescue] Dodge vehicles

Michael Free rescue at sunhelp.org
Sat Mar 31 00:03:18 CST 2001


well, i've tossed that theory back and forth a lot in thinking about
it...the 2.2 motors are just too different from the slant-6 to be "based"
from it... overhead cam, other things like the ports on the other side of
the slant from the original 6, other details. No, i'd have to say that the
2.2 was probably 90% a ground-up design.

now, i thought about the problem with the chain mentioned earlier...had to
be a mitsu engine. the A and B v8 motors didn't use chain guides, and the
2.2 and every engine since has used belts, and furthermore were
non-interference designs....break a belt, change the belt, the valves can
_never_ hit the piston. Gotta be a POJ mitsu :)

Mike F
-----Original Message-----
From: ed at the7thbeer.com <ed at the7thbeer.com>
To: rescue at sunhelp.org <rescue at sunhelp.org>
Date: Saturday, March 31, 2001 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [SunRescue] Dodge vehicles


>The "perfect" 4?  You refer to the 2.2 and 2.4 of K-car heritage?  Nothing
>more than Slant-6's sans 2 cylinders.  To wit, perfected long long before.
>;)
>
>I still wanna buy my neighbors Challenger, but it's only got the
>318(ick)...
>
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>This boxen's uptime stats....
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>On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, Michael Free wrote:
>
>> sounds like the mitsubishi 2.6 engine....they used 'em in the front drive
>> cars in the early eighties before chrysler had perfected their own
four....
>> which rocks, BTW...I drive one, dodge shadow.
>>
>> Check this guy out
>> http://dodgegarage.www2.50megs.com
>> he has a turbo 86 plymouth reliant that runs 10's in the quarter at
120MPH+
>>
>> Mike Free
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wa2egp at att.net <wa2egp at att.net>
>> To: rescue at sunhelp.org <rescue at sunhelp.org>
>> Date: Saturday, March 31, 2001 12:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: [SunRescue] Dodge vehicles
>>
>>
>> >  You were lucky.  My friend had one and the timing
>> >chain "went".  Actually a plastic pin that held a guide
>> >for the timing chain (which was still metal) wore, the
>> >guide slipped and the chain fell off and jammed.  He had
>> >to disassemble the engine.  It was amusing that during
>> >the process when the engine was out of the car, the car
>> >computer decided to announce there was an engine
>> >malfunction ;->
>> >> Hi All.
>> >>
>> >> Nothing can kill the Dodge Diplomat! I used to run a fleet of
taxicabs,
>> >> and the only cars I would use were Dodge Diplomat ex-police cars! You
>> >> just can't kill them! In the fleet I was leased thru there were 3 of
us
>> >> that owned most of the fleet, I had 12 Diplomats, one guy had nothing
>> >> but Chevy Caprices, and the last guy had nothing but Ford /Mercury
Crown
>> >> Vics / Marquis.  I generally paid 1/4 of what the other guys paid per
>> >> car, and had 1/4 the mechanical problems with them too! I sold off
most
>> >> of the cabs when I moved to TN, but I brought 4 of them up here with
me,
>> >> and started (and fairly quickly closed) a small cab company here. I
>> >> still own 2 of the Diplomats (although I might sell one of them, I got
>> >> TOO many cars!), and my main vehicle is a Dodge Ram 1 ton diesel
dually.
>> >> The only thing I got that's not 100% chrysler is a 79 Jeep, but since
>> >> the buyout, I guess it's retroactively a Chrysler product now :)
>> >>
>> >> The newest Diplomat I had was an 87 (this was just a couple of years
>> >> ago), and the earliest was an 82, and they regularly were MUCH more
>> >> reliable than the 90 chevys the other guy was using! I never had any
>> >> problems with computers or sensors going bad (well, ok, one computer
did
>> >> die on me), but the Chevy's and Fords were always having sensor
>> >> troubles. Of course there's no harder test of a car than making it a
>> >> cab, they run 24/7 and actually get harder use than a police car does!
>> >>
>> >> Back onto the topic of computers, mentioning the rackmount drive
trays,
>> >> I have one in my SS690, but it only had 4 drives in it rather than the
6
>> >> it could hold (this is the tray that holds 6 5.25" differential
drives),
>> >> anyone know where I can get the brackets that mount the drives into
it,
>> >> as I currently added the last 2 drives, but without proper mounting
>> >> brackets I just have them sitting on old mousepads in the box, and I'd
>> >> like to fix that. Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> -Mike
>> >>
>> >> > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:37:00PM -0800, James Lockwood wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On a trip up to San Jose from L.A., I managed to pack 8 of the
large
>> Sun
>> >> > > rackmount drive trays into my '78 Dodge Diplomat (4D sedan), plus
2
>> >> > > passengers and a bunch of extra drives. That included about 60
5.25"
>> FH
>> >> > > hard drives with a total weight of well over half a ton.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ah yes, the famous "dodge4d" architecture.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have found Chrysler products ugly and cheap, but quite good at
>> holding
>> >> > lots of stuff.  I often drove a Caravan ("minimax" architecture)
around
>> with
>> >> > up to about 4000 pounds of stuff in it when I worked for my family's
>> business.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cordially
>> >> >
>> >> > Patrick Giagnocavo
>> >> > patrick at zill.net
>> >> >
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