[SunRescue] Looking for SS20

[jcarver]

Ken, 

I wouldn't hold my breath on any discounts for the Blade
100 anytime in the near future. The Sun dealers I know in the
Portland area are grumbling because you can get a Blade cheaper
of the website than they can get one for with their discount by
the time shipping is figured in. One dealer who has ordered some
for a LARGE customer; figures he will be lucky to break even.
He is only doing it because of the volume in other areas and the
fact that their purchasing quidelines only let the buy from a
dealer and not direct. (They refuse to agree to Suns legal agreement
that you have to accept for direct purchase.)

				jim

Ken Hansen wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> In my opinion, an SS/20 only makes sense if you have a
> reasonably well-stocked parts bin, and don't need to go out and
> look for HDs, RAM, or CPUs. The way the market is right now, I
> would be very hesitant to open my wallet and spend *cash* of any
> magnatude on SBUS SPARC hardware.
> 
> Any box based on a Sun4c CPU (IPC, SS/1/2/etc) is not worth
> dollar one to me, that is not to say they don't have usefullnes,
> but I think the folks that buy these units now are going to be
> the last owners of them.
> 
> I liken this to the market for 80486-based PCs.
> 
> Sun4m boxes have a bit more time to be marketable, but honestly,
> I'd have to think real hard before I open my wallet for anything
> less than a *real nice* SS/20 (like the 2x SM50, 128 Meg RAM, 2x
> 1 Gig HD, 4 Meg VSIMM and CD-ROM equiped SS/20 I got for about
> $250 a few months back). The 2x SM71s were a nice upgrade, and I
> think that box will be my "beater" for trying things out.
> 
> Sun Ultra 1s are still quite usefull, and they will be
> marketable for 12-18 months, due mainly to their spiraling value
> and binary compatability with newer machines.
> 
> Ultra 2s are the new SS/20s AFAIAC, and will hold their value
> for 2 years plus, since they are so powerful, and deployed in so
> many applications as servers... At 2x300 MHz Ultra SPARC CPUs,
> these units can handle most anything thrown at them, esp. I/O
> related activities.
> 
> I can't speak to the Ultra 5, 10 and above systems - I've just
> not dealt with them to have any sense of value/lifespan/etc.
> 
> Sun Blade 100s are the crack cocaine of the Sun market, and once
> I can get one with a decent discount (educational) I'll be on
> that unit right away. What I really like is the low-cost of
> add-ons, like RAM, HD, etc. I suspect that a $1K server will
> decimate the Cobalt Cube/RAQ market, and their technology will
> evolve into a pure software offering, based on Sun's new
> generation of hardware...
> 
> Well, those are my thoughts, I'm sure some folks will difer with
> me, but hey, that's why were here, right? ;^)
> 
> Ken
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rescue-admin at sunhelp.org
> [mailto:rescue-admin at sunhelp.org]On
> Behalf Of Bill Bradford
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 2:38 PM
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: [SunRescue] Looking for SS20
> 
> I'm in the market (possibly) for a SS20, if anybody has one
> barebones,
> let me know.
> 
> bill
> 
> --
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> mrbill at mrbill.net
> Austin, TX
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