[SunRescue] Re: SS2 running headless
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rescue at sunhelp.org
Mon Feb 12 01:34:21 CST 2001
of course, if you're running solaris, you can just
init 6
a net savings of ten keystrokes. the superiority of SysVr4 demonstrated once
again.
;^)
Dave McGuire writes:
>
> Well sure, you do have a point there.
>
> Fortunately though, Unix machines rarely wedge so hard that you can't
> just log in and "sync;sync;reboot" them. Except for the PeeCees, that
> is, but the poor morons who run PeeCees in the computer room deserve
> what they get.
>
> "Hey, can you bring that VGA monitor and PS2 keyboard over here?"
>
> -Dave McGuire
>
> On February 11, Ken Hansen wrote:
>> >From what you say, they had consoles, but not dedicated consoles. The
>> original poster was talking about a machine with no user I/O, just ethernet
>> access. That is nice, but acces to the machine over another port (serial
>> console, dedicated tube/keys/mouse, or other) is, at the least, *suggested*
>> isn't it?
>>
>> Every machine doesn't need a dedicated console, I am 100% with everyone on
>> that, but a console connected to a KVM, a serial console connected to a
>> smart serial switch, or other is a reasonable minimum.
>>
>> Bottom line, you more options to reset a server than the power switch...
>>
>> Right?
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dave McGuire" <mcguire at neurotica.com>
>> To: <rescue at sunhelp.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 1:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SunRescue] Re: SS2 running headless
>>
>>
>> > On February 11, paul at anastrophe.com wrote:
>> > > > A few things...
>> > > >
>> > > > 1) Runnig the machine with *no* console is not a *great*
>> > > > idea, but it should be OK.
>> > >
>> > > why do you say that? (currently running 18 servers headless and without
>> > > console port connected, for the last two years, and would never even
>> > > consider running the desktop on them since it's such a security
>> sphincter)
>> >
>> > I second this, Ken. In the server and ISP industries, running
>> > machines with no console is the norm. At Digex, for example (before
>> > the place went down the tubes, that is) picture hundreds of SS2 and
>> > SS5 systems on shelves in racks...in the middle of the computer room,
>> > a table and chair with a couple of VT320s with *very* long MMJ cables.
>> >
>> > It's a very workable situation and has never given me any grief.
>> >
>> >
>> > -Dave McGuire
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