[geeks] Vista is a job creator...

Jon Gilbert jjj at io.com
Sun Oct 29 12:01:46 CST 2006


People will hack it.

-J

On Sep 19, 2006, at 9:45 PM, Charles Shannon Hendrix wrote:

> Tue, 19 Sep 2006 @ 13:04 -0400, Joshua Boyd said:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 12:11:14PM -0400, Charles Shannon Hendrix  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Go ahead, be silly.
>>>
>>> No one said encryption was in the cable itself.
>>>
>>> It's the two ends of the cable that do that.
>>>
>>> If you don't have the encryption on the two ends, the cable only
>>> transmits low quality data.
>>
>> I have seen several instances of unencrpyted 1920x1080 data, 1280x720
>> data, and 1336x768 data over HDMI.  Just because a minority of  
>> devices
>> will reduce the resolution if the negotiations for encryption fail  
>> does
>> not mean you have an encrpyted video cable.  The video cable is just
>> fine.  The video cable is a few TMDS serial lines, an I2C bus, and  
>> an AV
>> Link.  Nothing more.
>
> It's not going to be a minority of devices.  The deal being struck
> between hardware companies and content owners is to make all new  
> content
> only available on compliant technology.
>
> Even if it is a minority, it is one small step to something bad.
>
> All that needs to happen is for a few million sheeple to buy into it,
> and the content creators can make good money selling new content  
> *ONLY*
> on compliant devices.
>
> Millions of said devices have already been sold: XBOX 360 can fully
> support the new DRM schemes, and consumers are lining up in droves for
> the Sony PS3, which also can.
>
> The new devices will not have the 1920x1080 and other unencrypted  
> video.
> They simple will not produce it.
>
> Yes, you can keep using existing content, just like you can still use
> your old VHS tapes, but the point is the future will move away from  
> free
> formats.
>
>> If you don't like HDCP, then don't buy devices that insist on it  
>> rather
>> than blaming the poor HDMI cable.  Better also make sure that the  
>> analog
>> outputs are cripled on those devices as well.
>
> I won't, but millions of others will.
>
> The number of people who will even pay attention is vanishingly small,
> unless the word gets out.
>
>> Meanwhile, enjoy BTTV, OTA, and the few cable or satalite  
>> companies that
>> supply high quality analog outputs, where you can run them into a  
>> PC and
>> build your own DVR (granted, it will have some expense to it, and you
>> might find you desire a small cluster for transcoding if you record
>> enough programs in a given day).
>
> Yes, enjoy it until they all buy into the new scheme, and you won't  
> have
> that either.
>
> Satellite can go away in an instant.
>
> The only really safe format is existing hard media, and only while it
> physically survives along with players.
>
> -- 
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> think
> of one way to spell a word." -- Andrew Jackson]
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Jon Gilbert
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