[geeks] @home has finally done it...

Greg A. Woods geeks at sunhelp.org
Sun Aug 19 16:54:17 CDT 2001


[ On Sunday, August 19, 2001 at 22:22:48 (+0100), David Cantrell wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: [geeks] @home has finally done it...
>
> I'm glad you're not my ISP.  I expect to be able to do what the hell I
> like with my machines, including running whatever public services I
> please on them.

If you want that kind of service then you have to pay for it.  You
simply can't get full connectivity for what "Joe Jim-Bob WebSurfer"
pays (or expects).

>  I should not have to seek someone elses approval before
> I do that.

If you're just paying for a "Joe J.B. Websurfer" account then you get
client-only access, and we'll decide exactly what that means w.r.t. our
own security and management requirements.  :-)

(When I said "unless you have an authorised SMTP server" I meant "unless
you've paid up-front for that kind of service".)

>  Of course, my contract states very specifically that I can
> run whatever servers I like as long as they don't harm the service*, and
> that the ISP won't filter *anything*.

Then you _are_ paying for the kind of service you want!  :-)

> I don't know the difference between @home and @work, but any badness will
> be mitigated by having proper secondarying arrangements.  Most of my
> domains have that, so it doesn't matter too much if I have DNS glitches.

That still doesn't mean that you can run a DNS server on an @Home
address....

> Ahhhh, I love my ISP :-)  As long as I can translate from their support
> peoples' Windowsisms, they don't care what I use.  Discussion usually
> goes "go to the start menu, setting ..." ... "wait, I don't use Windows,
> just tell me what I need to do not how to do it" ... "Oh, OK".

That sometimes does work with the Rogers at Home tier-1 support, luckily....

> Precisely.  People are shocked at how much I pay for my DSL.  They're
> even more shocked by the service I get :-)  I *could* get the same
> bandwidth for free through work, but I won't do it.  I won't get the
> level of service I require.  That, and I religiously seperate personal
> and work stuff.

People were shocked when I had two phone lines at home and modems on
both of them back in the 80's.  These days everyone knows I have
exceptional connectivity (and most people even know I don't pay much in
real $$$ for it either! :-).  But then I've been doing this "Internet"
thing since almost before there was a commercial Internet in Canada!  ;-)

> * - I thought it would be a good idea to warn them about the anonymising
> mail relay I'm putting together.  They shat themselves until I explained
> exactly how I would make it spammer-proof.  It'll also be cult-proof, so
> won't suffer the fate of anon.penet.fi, but that's a seperate issue :-)
> I am currently awaiting a delivery of tuits.

Hee hee!  ;-)

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