[SunHELP] Re: SunHELP digest, Vol 1 #1507 - 15 msgs
Tony Escujuri
tony at unixadm.net
Tue Feb 5 08:56:07 CST 2002
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> 1. Re: Guys, this is not good...for Sun (Gregory Leblanc)
> 2. Re: Guys, this is not good...for Sun (Dale Ghent)
> 3. Re: Guys, this is not good...for Sun (Gregory Leblanc)
> 4. Re: Xsession.wm file problem (Ravi Katti)
> 5. Re: Guys, this is not good...for Sun (Ravi Katti)
> 6. Re: Guys, this is not good...for Sun (Dale Ghent)
> 7. PRNGD problem (Assad Khan)
> 8. Re: PRNGD problem (Will Yardley)
> 9. Re: Re: PRNGD problem (Assad Khan)
> 10. Re: PRNGD problem (Will Yardley)
> 11. firewire on a U10 (Paul Mitcheson)
> 12. init command doesn't work (Shahreza, Shabnam)
> 13. RE: init command doesn't work (Lund, Dennis)
> 14. audioio.h for Sol. 2.8 (Michael Doyle)
> 15. full ufsdump & ufsrestore (Markham, Richard)
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> Message: 1
> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Guys, this is not good...for Sun
> From: Gregory Leblanc <gleblanc at linuxweasel.com>
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Date: 04 Feb 2002 10:12:15 -0800
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 05:51, Paul Mitcheson wrote:
> > I have just had so many problems with Linux in the past with setting up
> > hardware on Intel boxes. Also, the pkg format seems pretty good,
> > especially compared with rpms (dependency hell)
>
> Heh, the reason you don't have any dependancy problems with the solaris
> packaging format is that it's inordinately difficult to put dependancies
> into the native solaris package format.
> Greg
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:27:38 -0500 (EST)
> From: Dale Ghent <daleg at elemental.org>
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Guys, this is not good...for Sun
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> On 4 Feb 2002, Gregory Leblanc wrote:
>
> | Heh, the reason you don't have any dependancy problems with the solaris
> | packaging format is that it's inordinately difficult to put dependancies
> | into the native solaris package format.
>
> It is?
>
> When I roll a package, I make a file called 'depend' with the
> prerequisite package names one per line.
>
> not too difficult for me.
>
> /dale
>
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> Message: 3
> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Guys, this is not good...for Sun
> From: Gregory Leblanc <gleblanc at linuxweasel.com>
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Date: 04 Feb 2002 12:35:37 -0800
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 12:27, Dale Ghent wrote:
> > On 4 Feb 2002, Gregory Leblanc wrote:
> >
> > | Heh, the reason you don't have any dependancy problems with the
solaris
> > | packaging format is that it's inordinately difficult to put
dependancies
> > | into the native solaris package format.
> >
> > It is?
> >
> > When I roll a package, I make a file called 'depend' with the
> > prerequisite package names one per line.
> >
> > not too difficult for me.
>
> Seems impossible for the guys who package sunfreeware.com, and the folks
> at sunireland.
> Greg
>
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> Message: 4
> From: "Ravi Katti" <ravikatti at hotmail.com>
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Xsession.wm file problem
> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 20:45:06 +0000
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> How are you setting things in .profile? Let us know. Its pretty simple and
> you are already doing it in xsession.wm.
> Also check your .dtprofile file and see for this string
> "DTSOURCEPROFILE=true".
>
> Thanks
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Michael Hansen" <mhansen at Landmarkcollege.org>
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> To: <SunHELP at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: [SunHELP] Xsession.wm file problem
> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 03:23:31 -0500
>
> Ok, maybe I'm being dense here, I can't find
> any more FAQs to read. If this is a "dumb
> question", my apologies. This is my second
> try, if you get Deja Vue reading this.
>
> Given:
> Solaris 7/SPARC with wm2 run from
> /usr/dt/config/Xsession.wm
>
> I managed to get all my environment variables
> set up by putting all the "VARIABLE=..." and
> "export VARIABLE" stuff in my Xsession.wm file,
> but I would really prefer to set them from
> .profile or a shell script in the home directory.
> So far, all my attempts to do this have failed.
>
> I have a strong feeling that I am going about
> this the wrong way. Could someone point me
> in the right direction?
>
> I am currently the only user of this machine,
> but I want to give some other students accounts
> on it so we can collaborate on projects better.
> I would like to give them the ability to set
> their own environment variables, and still be
> able to use the wm2 window manager, which clearly
> offers a performance advantage over dtwm.
>
> (Also, since wm2 is unconfigurable without
> recompiling, one more potential distraction
> is eliminated. Since over half the students
> at my college have Attention Defficit Disorder,
> including myself, I think we will get much more
> work done if we can't zone out for half an hour
> fooling with the window manager configuration.)
>
> Thanks,
> -Mike
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> Thanks & Regards
> Ravi
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> Message: 5
> From: "Ravi Katti" <ravikatti at hotmail.com>
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Guys, this is not good...for Sun
> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 21:36:17 +0000
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> Somehow I have had a bad experience with Linux. It is okay as long as you
> use Linux as DNS/Mail server or some kind of network box. My old sun SS5
was
> happily serving around 150 users with hell lot of NFS activity. But my
Linux
> on a dual Pentium CPU used to crash even 1/3 load of SS5.
> One of the developer asked me to upgrade gcc and I ended up upgrading the
> Linux OS itself, beacuse gcc required some libraries upgraded and to do
this
> i had to upgrade RPM and to do this ... this went on and ultimately
upgrade
> OS.
>
> I could be wrong too but things are so easy and stable on solaris.
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Anthony J. Gabrielson" <agabriel at home.tzo.org>
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Guys, this is not good...for Sun
> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:07:21 -0500 (EST)
>
> I will have a really unpopular view, here goes.
>
> I have been running linux for years, along with solaris, openbsd, and many
> more. My Sun machines running Solaris are only as stable as my intel
> machines running any other nix, including the linux 2.4 arch. The
> journaling filesystems are great. The support is even better. I sent
> out an email the other day looking for a bit of info on doing an ethernet
> driver, I didn't get any responses - I also called sun and they asked me
> why in the world I would ever want to do that. I like Solaris, even thou
> it is odd at points. Most of the other free nix's are at least just as
> good.
>
> I want anyone who disagrees with me at this point to ask themselves why
> sun should survive. I'm expecting to hear due to their robust servers or
> something to that effect. Do you run apache on that server? Which smtp
> server do you run? More than likely it will run just as well under other
> inx's. Also Linux can be locked down.
>
> Anyone have a legitimate answer to this? I'm not expecting to see much.
>
> Flame away!
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 18:11:52 -0500 (EST)
> From: Dale Ghent <daleg at elemental.org>
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Guys, this is not good...for Sun
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Anthony J. Gabrielson wrote:
>
> | I sent out an email the other day looking for a bit of info on doing an
> | ethernet driver, I didn't get any responses - I also called sun and they
> | asked me why in the world I would ever want to do that. I like Solaris,
> | even thou it is odd at points. Most of the other free nix's are at
> | least just as good.
>
> For your driver question, this list is (quite obviously) populated with
> sysadmins with various degrees of Solaris experience, and driver
> *programming* questions would probably not gather a quick response :) But
> as for that, there's docs on http://docs.sun.com/ in the Solaris8
> /Developer section that answer that question.
>
> As for hardware support, I believe the Solaris/x86 is well-rounded in that
> area, but yeah... Sol/x86 does not support every p.o.s. hardware that
> comes out of Taiwan. I think it would not be prudent for a focused company
> such as Sun to persue the kind of hardware support that you see with Linux
> or FreeBSD. If you want to run Sol/x86, you tailor your hardware to suit
> it in this case.
>
> | I want anyone who disagrees with me at this point to ask themselves why
> | sun should survive. I'm expecting to hear due to their robust servers
or
> | something to that effect. Do you run apache on that server? Which smtp
> | server do you run? More than likely it will run just as well under
other
> | inx's. Also Linux can be locked down.
>
> Sure, Apache would and should run on Linux as well as it does on Solaris,
> and vice versa. But what happens when you get up into the high server
> load? My experience is that a 800Mhz pentium Linux box will fail to
> adequately service requests before an otherwise comperable 440Mhz Ultra
> does. And despite what Ellison says, Oracle on Solaris/sparc is alot more
> capable than it's Linux analog. Need 2GB of SGA? No problem.
>
> Now, not everyone should use Solaris for everything. Up to a point, Linux
> on x86 serves the capacity well. Beyond that, you're limitting yourself.
>
> The claim "Linux can be locked down" is a bit ambiguous, though. Out of
> the box, some linux distros can be alot more secure than a stock Solaris
> load. But that doesnt mean that a stock Solaris load can be brought to a
> comperable level with a little bit of effort (and scripting, if you're
> going to do it more than once! :)
>
> /dale
>
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> Message: 7
> From: "Assad Khan" <assad at assad.dynup.net>
> To: <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 18:40:55 -0500
> Subject: [SunHELP] PRNGD problem
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> Hi,
>
> I posted a question on how to run SSH in Solaris 8, well Thanks alot for
all
> the replies. I did install everything but there seems to be a slight
problem.
>
> first, after I do a
>
> /etc/init.d/openssh.server start
>
> I try connecting from other machines and it refuses the connection.
>
> and secondly PRNGD is being a b*tch, I followed the exact procedure
outlined
> in the PDF from sun, but it still gives me the following error when I try
to
> connect to other *nix boxes on my LAN.
>
> Couldn't connect to PRNGD socket "/var/spool/prngd/pool": Socket operation
on
> non-socket
> Entropy collection failed and entropy exhausted
>
> Can someone please guide me?
>
> Thanks Alot.
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:47:09 -0800
> From: Will Yardley <william+sun at hq.newdream.net>
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Organization: New Dream Network
> Subject: [SunHELP] Re: PRNGD problem
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> Assad Khan wrote:
> >
> > first, after I do a
> >
> > /etc/init.d/openssh.server start
> >
> > I try connecting from other machines and it refuses the connection.
>
> well it would be helpful if you gave some information....
>
> what do your system logs say when you start sshd?
>
> what's the output of (from another machine)
> telnet yourmachine 22
>
> can you ssh to the loopback interface?
>
> what's the output of ps -eaf | grep sshd
>
> > and secondly PRNGD is being a b*tch, I followed the exact procedure
> > outlined in the PDF from sun, but it still gives me the following
> > error when I try to connect to other *nix boxes on my LAN.
>
> > Couldn't connect to PRNGD socket "/var/spool/prngd/pool": Socket
operation on
> > non-socket
> > Entropy collection failed and entropy exhausted
>
> what's the output of 'ls -al /var/spool/prngd' ?
>
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>
> Message: 9
> From: "Assad Khan" <assad at assad.dynup.net>
> To: <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Re: PRNGD problem
> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 19:17:55 -0500
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> It says nothing, I did a cat on /var/log/syslog and there is some sendmail
> crap, but thats about it.
>
> and the output when I try connecting from another machine is:
> Trying 192.168.0.5...
> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
>
> nope, cannot ssh to 127.0.0.1 either. Same error as I posted in previous
> e-mail.
>
> the output of ps -eaf | grep sshd is nothing, i.e.
> bash-2.03# ps -eaf | grep sshd
> root 500 468 0 19:14:13 pts/5 0:00 grep sshd
> bash-2.03#
>
> and the output of ls -la /var/spool/prngd is :
> bash-2.03# ls -al /var/spool/prngd/
> total 4
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root sys 512 Feb 4 18:40 .
> drwxr-xr-x 12 root bin 512 Feb 4 17:44 ..
>
> And by the way, there is nothing inside the /etc/init.d/openssh.server
file
> either.
> There seems to be nothing running. And I also rebooted after I install all
> the stuff just like the PDF said.
> Thanks.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Yardley <william+sun at hq.newdream.net>
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
> Date: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:51 PM
> Subject: [SunHELP] Re: PRNGD problem
>
>
> >Assad Khan wrote:
> >>
> >> first, after I do a
> >>
> >> /etc/init.d/openssh.server start
> >>
> >> I try connecting from other machines and it refuses the connection.
> >
> >well it would be helpful if you gave some information....
> >
> >what do your system logs say when you start sshd?
> >
> >what's the output of (from another machine)
> >telnet yourmachine 22
> >
> >can you ssh to the loopback interface?
> >
> >what's the output of ps -eaf | grep sshd
> >
> >> and secondly PRNGD is being a b*tch, I followed the exact procedure
> >> outlined in the PDF from sun, but it still gives me the following
> >> error when I try to connect to other *nix boxes on my LAN.
> >
> >> Couldn't connect to PRNGD socket "/var/spool/prngd/pool": Socket
> operation on
> >> non-socket
> >> Entropy collection failed and entropy exhausted
> >
> >what's the output of 'ls -al /var/spool/prngd' ?
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:21:08 -0800
> From: Will Yardley <william+sun at hq.newdream.net>
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Organization: New Dream Network
> Subject: [SunHELP] Re: PRNGD problem
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> Assad Khan wrote:
> >
> > And by the way, there is nothing inside the /etc/init.d/openssh.server
> > file either.
>
> there's NOTHING inside it?
>
> that would probably be your problem then, no?
>
> try re-downloading it if it's really empty.
>
> is the current version of openssh on the machine installed from the
> freeware package or from source?
>
> w
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 10:46:41 +0000
> From: Paul Mitcheson <pmitcheson at iee.org>
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Subject: [SunHELP] firewire on a U10
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> Dear all,
>
> You may recall that a week or so ago I asked about adding usb support to
> an Ultra 10, and that I had sucess with a standard ohci controller. (In
> my case the belkin one)
>
> This is a bit of a follow up question - does anyone have any experience
> with adding a firewire card? With usb I could afford to buy a card for
> test purposes, but of course firewire is relatively expensive.
>
> Thsnks,
>
> Paul
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> Message: 12
> From: "Shahreza, Shabnam" <Shabnam.Shahreza at PSIR.ie>
> To: "'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'" <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:52:44 -0000
> Subject: [SunHELP] init command doesn't work
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> Who does know why 'init' command doesn't work sometimes? I use Solaris
> 7-11/99 SPARC edition and I try to do 'init 0' but it does nothing!!!
>
> -- Sbnm
>
>
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> Message: 13
> From: "Lund, Dennis" <Dennis.Lund at sciatl.com>
> To: "'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'" <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: RE: [SunHELP] init command doesn't work
> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 08:10:21 -0500
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> This normally happens because it has run into an rc#.d script that does
not
> complete. Do a ps -ef and look for rc#.d processes that have not
finished.
> Kill the process and the init process should continue.
>
> Dennis Lund
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shahreza, Shabnam [mailto:Shabnam.Shahreza at PSIR.ie]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:53 AM
> To: 'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'
> Subject: [SunHELP] init command doesn't work
>
>
> Who does know why 'init' command doesn't work sometimes? I use Solaris
> 7-11/99 SPARC edition and I try to do 'init 0' but it does nothing!!!
>
> -- Sbnm
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 08:35:02 -0500 (EST)
> From: Michael Doyle <gmike at cstone.net>
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Subject: [SunHELP] audioio.h for Sol. 2.8
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> Hi all,
>
> What needs rescuing seems to be the file 'audioio.h', which seemingly
> wasn't installed in this machine (didn't install the OS myself; please no
> castigation - I've spent lots of time rescuing other machines: 2 NeXTs
[cube &
> slab], a SS IPC, and an SGI I2). What package contains this header file,
and
> on which Sol. 2.8 CD is it? I assume I just use pkgadd to install it?
>
> In what format is Vol. 1 of the 2.8 media? I see nothing but
> '.SUNW-boot-redirect' when I mount the CD.... So how does one se
> arch for software packages on it?
>
> This header is needed in compiling the audio_sun.c file of the mpg123 MP3
> player. Yup, I don't presently have a program that decodes an MP3, audio
not
> having been really high on the list of things to learn, but I've got a
little
> bit of time now. What do y'all prefer for decoding, encoding, and playing
> MP3's under Sol. 2.8?
>
> Michael
> Charlottesville, VA
>
> ----------------------------------
> E-Mail: Michael Doyle <gmike at cstone.net>
> Date: 05-Feb-02
> Time: 08:15:25
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> Message: 15
> From: "Markham, Richard" <RMarkham at hafeleamericas.com>
> To: "Sunhelp (E-mail)" <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:40:55 -0500
> Subject: [SunHELP] full ufsdump & ufsrestore
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> Possible Scenario:
> ufsdump was ran to dump each UFS filesystem seperately
> to a single tape.
> ((ie. ufsdump 0f /dev/rmt/0cn $FS) where $FS was (each UFS mount point))
>
>
> When restoring, If I were to change pwd to / and I run:
> ufsrestore -rf /dev/rmt/0cn /
> Would it restore all filesystems be it that the original fs
> structure was still in tact? Or would I have to individually
> run ufsrestore per filesystem (mount point) ?
>
>
> Thanks for info as I do not have a machine to test such a restore on.
>
>
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