[rescue] rescue Digest, Vol 175, Issue 4 - Sun Blade 2500 OS options

Tue Jun 13 17:02:12 CDT 2017

Hi All

As mentioned before by others, that is definitely not my understanding.
Initial releases maybe for 11, but I understood later releases when Oracle got
hold of it were T and M models only.

Peter

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> On 13 Jun 2017, at 03:01, Gary Sloane <gksloane at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> All releases of Solaris 10 and Solaris 11 supports the Sun Blade 2500.
>
> See the "Solaris 11 Hardware Compatability List". The Blade 2500 is on the
> list.
>
> Gary Sloane
>
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>   1. Re: Sun Blade 2500 OS options (Nemo)
>   2. Re: Sun Blade 2500 OS options (Jerry Kemp)
>   3. Re: Sun Blade 2500 OS options (William Barnett-Lewis)
>   4. Re: Sun Blade 2500 OS options (Phil Stracchino)
>   5. Re: Sun Blade 2500 OS options (Nemo)
>   6. Re: Sun Blade 2500 OS options (Jerry Kemp)
>   7. Re: Sun Blade 2500 OS options (Phil Stracchino)
>   8. Re: Sun Blade 2500 OS options (William Barnett-Lewis)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 13:29:59 -0400
> From: Nemo <cym224 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun Blade 2500 OS options
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> On 10 June 2017 at 04:53, William Barnett-Lewis <wlewisiii at gmail.com> wrote
> (in part):
>> On Jun 10, 2017 02:14, "Jerry Kemp" <sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us> wrote (in
> part):
>
>> Don't remember off the top of my head what Sun's last Solaris 10
>> release was, but Solaris 10u11 from Oracle is a fine and stable release.
>
> I run Solaris 10u13 on my SB2500.  One interesting difference from previous
> releases is that the stuff in the companion disc (installed in /opt/sfw) is
> now part of the release (installed in /usr/sfw).
>
>> I'm a *BSD fan myself, but have never ran it on SPARC, someone else
>> will need to chime in here.
>
> OpenBSD runs fine.
>
> I would be curious as to how running gimp works out.  It is included int
u13.
>
> N.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 13:30:06 -0500
> From: Jerry Kemp <sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun Blade 2500 OS options
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>> On 06/12/17 12:29 PM, Nemo wrote:
>> On 10 June 2017 at 04:53, William Barnett-Lewis <wlewisiii at gmail.com>
>> wrote (in part):
>>> On Jun 10, 2017 02:14, "Jerry Kemp" <sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us> wrote (in
> part):
>>
>>> Don't remember off the top of my head what Sun's last Solaris 10
>>> release was, but Solaris 10u11 from Oracle is a fine and stable release.
>>
>> I run Solaris 10u13 on my SB2500.  One interesting difference from
>> previous releases is that the stuff in the companion disc (installed
>> in /opt/sfw) is now part of the release (installed in /usr/sfw).
>
>
> The last Solaris 10 release from Oracle is S10u11, with a release date of
> January 2013.  Is this what you are running?  Or something else?
>
>
>>
>>> I'm a *BSD fan myself, but have never ran it on SPARC, someone else will
>>> need to chime in here.
>>
>> OpenBSD runs fine.
>>
>> I would be curious as to how running gimp works out.
>
> I've ran gimp on Solaris, both SPARC and Intel.  It runs.  Never done
anything
> meaningful with it, other than maybe rotate or crop an image.  Spent too
many
> years with Adobe applications to ever attempt anything meaningful with
gimp,
> and
> because of that, there will always be a Mac of some sorts next to my
Solaris
> and/or OpenIndiana desktop.
>
>
>> It is included int u13.
>>
>> N.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 13:35:16 -0500
> From: William Barnett-Lewis <wlewisiii at gmail.com>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun Blade 2500 OS options
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>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Nemo <cym224 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 10 June 2017 at 04:53, William Barnett-Lewis <wlewisiii at gmail.com>
>> wrote (in part):
>>> On Jun 10, 2017 02:14, "Jerry Kemp" <sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us> wrote (in
> part):
>>
>>> Don't remember off the top of my head what Sun's last Solaris 10 release
>>> was, but Solaris 10u11 from Oracle is a fine and stable release.
>>
>> I run Solaris 10u13 on my SB2500.  One interesting difference from
>> previous releases is that the stuff in the companion disc (installed
>> in /opt/sfw) is now part of the release (installed in /usr/sfw).
>
> I've found a copy of the 10u11 (dated 1/13) which appears to be the
> most recent - perhaps that's what your running? I also have the
> 2010.11 edition of Solaris Express. I'll see which runs better for me.
>
>>> I'm a *BSD fan myself, but have never ran it on SPARC, someone else will
>>> need to chime in here.
>>
>> OpenBSD runs fine.
>
> I believe that there is only unaccellerated use of the XVR-600
> framebuffer in *BSD.
>
>> I would be curious as to how running gimp works out.  It is included int
> u13.
>
> I expect that until I get the ram maxed out at 16 gb and the second
> CPU & fan (both reasonably cheap on E-Prey) it won't be all that good
> but once those two specs are up there, it'll probably be no worse than
> my dual core (de?)Celeron Dell laptop. Graphic performance should be
> better at minimum.
>
> --
> Live like you will never die, love like you've never been hurt, dance
> like no-one is watching.
>                Alex White
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:01:35 -0400
> From: Phil Stracchino <phils at caerllewys.net>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun Blade 2500 OS options
> Message-ID: <c96cd7a4-dcd1-1ad5-d992-c83901462cba at caerllewys.net>
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>> On 06/12/17 14:30, Jerry Kemp wrote:
>> The last Solaris 10 release from Oracle is S10u11, with a release date of
>> January 2013.  Is this what you are running?  Or something else?
>
> Speaking of Solaris releases ... what's the current latest word on
> availability of Solaris 11?  I'd like to start getting ducks in order
> ready for the soon-incoming X4540.
>
>
> --
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:47:59 -0400
> From: Nemo <cym224 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun Blade 2500 OS options
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>> On 12 June 2017 at 14:35, William Barnett-Lewis <wlewisiii at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Nemo <cym224 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 10 June 2017 at 04:53, William Barnett-Lewis <wlewisiii at gmail.com>
>>> wrote (in part):
>>>> On Jun 10, 2017 02:14, "Jerry Kemp" <sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us> wrote (in
> part):
>>>
>>>> Don't remember off the top of my head what Sun's last Solaris 10 release
>>>> was, but Solaris 10u11 from Oracle is a fine and stable release.
>>>
>>> I run Solaris 10u13 on my SB2500.  One interesting difference from
>>> previous releases is that the stuff in the companion disc (installed
>>> in /opt/sfw) is now part of the release (installed in /usr/sfw).
>>
>> I've found a copy of the 10u11 (dated 1/13) which appears to be the
>> most recent - perhaps that's what your running?
>
> Yes.  Sorry, all, I confused the date with the release:
>
> [~]=> cat /etc/release
>                   Oracle Solaris 10 1/13 s10s_u11wos_24a SPARC
>  Copyright (c) 1983, 2013, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights
> reserved.
>                            Assembled 17 January 2013
>
>>> I would be curious as to how running gimp works out.  It is included int
> u13.
>>
>> I expect that until I get the ram maxed out at 16 gb and the second
>> CPU & fan (both reasonably cheap on E-Prey) it won't be all that good
>> but once those two specs are up there, it'll probably be no worse than
>> my dual core (de?)Celeron Dell laptop. Graphic performance should be
>> better at minimum.
>
> I assume that you have the Silver.  I ran versions of gimp that I
> compiled from source.  It wasn't that bad.  I never tried the
> Oracle-sigh-supplied binary gimp. which is probably better tuned.
>
> N.
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:38:20 -0500
> From: Jerry Kemp <sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun Blade 2500 OS options
> Message-ID: <a169b0d0-f5ef-6c5f-e2d9-961f01a7460f at oryx.us>
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>
> I'm guessing that you missed Oracle's versioning announcement earlier in
the
> year.
>
> The short story is, Oracle is jumping on the same versioning bandwagon that
> Apple did in 2001 and m$ did with the windows 10 release.
>
> And what bandwagon is that?  Just in short, enterprise customers drag their
> feet
> in regards to updates, many times well beyond the last support date.
>
> The response, Oracle will not bump the version number any more.  They will
> forever add new features, bug fixes, security releases, etc to Solaris
11.x.
>
> For how long...their support matrix shows support out till almost 2040.  I
> believe that is it something like 2038 or similar.
>
> Don't take my word for any of this.  All of this is out on various
> *.oracle.com
> support web pages, although I would bet your capacity planning team
(assuming
> large organization) has already seen this.
>
> Also, again, assuming you haven't been on Solaris 11.x since 2011, getting
any
> version or kernel version out of 'uname -a' is long gone too.
>
> I do quarterly SRU updates at $WORK.
>
> # pkg info entire | grep -i branch
>
> is now your version validation tool.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>> On 06/12/17 02:01 PM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
>>> On 06/12/17 14:30, Jerry Kemp wrote:
>>> The last Solaris 10 release from Oracle is S10u11, with a release date of
>>> January 2013.  Is this what you are running?  Or something else?
>>
>> Speaking of Solaris releases ... what's the current latest word on
>> availability of Solaris 11?  I'd like to start getting ducks in order
>> ready for the soon-incoming X4540.
>
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 21:19:32 -0400
> From: Phil Stracchino <phils at caerllewys.net>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun Blade 2500 OS options
> Message-ID: <fa554e29-030a-91fe-3a5b-46a0b48b9673 at caerllewys.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>> On 06/12/17 16:38, Jerry Kemp wrote:
>> I'm guessing that you missed Oracle's versioning announcement earlier in
the
> year.
>>
>> The short story is, Oracle is jumping on the same versioning bandwagon
that
>> Apple did in 2001 and m$ did with the windows 10 release.
>>
>> And what bandwagon is that?  Just in short, enterprise customers drag
their
> feet
>> in regards to updates, many times well beyond the last support date.
>>
>> The response, Oracle will not bump the version number any more.  They will
>> forever add new features, bug fixes, security releases, etc to Solaris
> 11.x.
>
>
> I was more inquiring about options for getting it, whether there is
> currently anything resembling a hobbyist license, etc.
>
> And if not, then recommendations for open-source alternatives...?
>
>
> --
>  Phil Stracchino
>  Babylon Communications
>  phils at caerllewys.net
>  phil at co.ordinate.org
>  Landline: +1.603.293.8485
>  Mobile:   +1.603.998.6958
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 20:53:15 -0500
> From: William Barnett-Lewis <wlewisiii at gmail.com>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun Blade 2500 OS options
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Phil Stracchino <phils at caerllewys.net>
> wrote:
>> I was more inquiring about options for getting it, whether there is
>> currently anything resembling a hobbyist license, etc.
>>
>> And if not, then recommendations for open-source alternatives...?
>
> Here's where their downloads of Solaris 10 are. You'll have to go
> through the license to see if it's ok.
>
>
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris10/downloads/index.ht
> ml
>
>
> --
> Live like you will never die, love like you've never been hurt, dance
> like no-one is watching.
>                Alex White
>
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