[rescue] [rescue]SCSI vs. IDE [was u5>u30?!?]

[Tim H.]

On my intel boxes I tend to use scsi for the CDROM and for my external jaz, etc. because that lets me use two ide disks without sharing a controller.  Since these machines only need a CD occasionally I use whatever old slow free CD's I have.  For my purposes I haven't felt a speed difference between ATA66 and old fast scsi drives.  Of course I am not running enough server traffic to matter anyway, so I could probably do just as well with a floppy drive.

Somebody was drooling over notebook scsi, as far as I know nobody is making notebook scsi drives anymore, in fact my friend with the tadpole sparcbook has an IDE with scsi adapter in his.  I definitely haven't found an affordable source of used scsi notebook drives, I'd like to find something in the 500M range to bring a couple old powerbooks back to life for my collection.

Tim 

On Wed, 8 May 2002 18:53:36 -0700 (PDT)
Robert Novak <rnovak at indyramp.com> wrote:

> On 8 May 2002, Gregory Leblanc wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2002-05-08 at 17:26, Ken Caruso wrote:
> > > I am guessing he is speaking of IDE drives, which depending the intended
> > > use are probably not fast enough for heavy server stuff, in which case
> > > you probably shouldnt be using a u5 anyways.
> > 
> > Yeah, I don't think Rob is a SCSI snob (I wish I were l33t enough to be
> > a SCSI snob).
> 
> I am a SCSI snob when I have the resources, but I don't have the official
> Joshua blinders yet. I know that not everyone needs SCSI. If you're just
> using the machine as an X terminal, for example, the difference between
> SCSI and IDE is negligible. DNS on a small (<1000 domains) nameserver
> probably doesn't exceed 33MB/sec either.
> 
> Anyone who thinks every computer system for every purpose and audience
> requires SCSI... doesn't have enough practical and pragmatic knowledge
> about system building to speak on the matter (or they have way too much
> money to throw away, in which case my paypal address is my email address).
> 
> Darn, I fed the troll again. 
> 
> > > But yeah just spent $120 bucks for an 80gig (drool) ide drive to stick
> > > in my u5 at home.
> > 
> > I think you got shafted, I'm seeing them for $80...  
> 
> They're about $100 at CSC's retail side I think, 90 day warranty. 73gig
> SCSI is only $300 at hitechcafe.com these days (I think $300 > $100 these
> days). 
> 
> > > We have 5 firewalls that are u5 with ide drives and we have had disks
> > > die in two of them in the past three years. Which I consider to be right
> > > on par with IDE disks.
> > 
> > Mirrored, I hope?
> 
> I had more system boards than disks fail on my U5s at my Big Corporate
> Job. Part of that was that my lab people ran stacks of them with 3 qfe
> cards running heavy traffic, with not much ventilation, but still...
> had more SCSI disks fail than IDE and I had about equal numbers of them
> deployed.
> 
> Rob
> 
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