[rescue] HP9000/715

Mon Oct 15 11:52:12 CDT 2001

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You can boot from any size drive in 10.2 but you have to use LVM on drives
bigger than 2 Gb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sandau [mailto:ssandau at bath.tmac.com]
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 11:10 AM
To: rescue at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [rescue] HP9000/715

Thanks. I stumbled across the "copy bootstrap" choice in sam, and that
was the key. I made a bootable filesystem on a 400M drive, and mounted
the 2G drive as an LVM (have to if > 2G??) to get me almos 2.5G total.
Since I was able to put all the drives in at once, I just did a cp from
the old noisy drive to the new ones. I had to use two new ones, because
sam complained that it could only make drives < 1G bootable in HP-UX
10.20.

I think I may try again since CDE now won't run at boot time, only by
hand (dtlogin), and then you can only log in as root. Must have boogered
up permissions somewhere in the cp. (I did a tar of the whole fs before,
and untarred to refill /usr, but it didn't fix it.)

I still have the old drive intact; maybe I'll try a dump instead of tar.

Thanks, too for the pointer to mkboot.

Steve

> Randy Bowie wrote:
> 
> I would use sam(Disks and File Systems) to make a HFS file system("not
> using LVM") on the 2Gb, I can't remember if there are options to make
> it bootable or not.  If not just run mkboot on the device(e.g. mkboot
> -l /dev/dsk/c0tnd0, see man mkboot).
> 
> Then mount the 2Gb file system.
> 
> cd to the mount point.
> 
> dump 0f - / | restore rf -
> 
> Now you can test by rebooting, interrupting the boot process, and then
> typing "boot path" where path is the 2 Gb drive(use search if you
> forgot).
> 
> Note that dump/restore doesn't care about file system sizes as long as
> there's enough space.  I would take care to use the same type of file
> system.
> 
> Let me know if I left something out. :)
> 
> HTH
> 
> -Randy Bowie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ssandau at bath.tmac.com [mailto:ssandau at bath.tmac.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 8:42 PM
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: [rescue] HP9000/715
> 
> Maybe I'm spoiled by using SPARCs, but I'm having a terrible time with
> 
> an HP9000 box. All I want to do is put the OS on a quiet 2Gb drive, as
> 
> opposed to the noisy 1Gb drive it's on now.
> 
> I have software, but it's for a 8xx series and only pretends to
> install.
> Ignite HP sounds good, but I have yet to be able to boot from one of
> its
> "bootable tapes." (Have an old Archive Viper 1/4" cart drive in the
> box.)
> 
> I don't quite know enough about dd to copy data that way, and I don't
> know enough about HP's LVM stuff to just copy everything from one
> drive
> to the other with a cp command or something. (I can get both SCSI
> drives
> in the box at once.)
> 
> I was even ready to chuck HP-UX all together and run Debian Linux, but
> 
> the "woody" (chuckle) release that supports HP hardware isn't ready
> yet.
> The PA Linux bootable CD that I downloaded and burned is only
> partially
> bootable. It's recognized, gets through 6 or so lines showing things
> load, then dies.
> 
> Anyone have suggestions? Aside from giving you the hardware. ;)
> 
> Steve
> _______________________________________________
> rescue maillist  -  rescue at sunhelp.org
> http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue

-- 
Steve Sandau, IS Technician
TMA Bath, Maine
ssandau at bath.tmac.com
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>You can boot from any size drive in 10.2 but you have to use LVM on drives bigger than 2 Gb.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Steve Sandau [<A HREF="mailto:ssandau at bath.tmac.com">mailto:ssandau at bath.tmac.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 11:10 AM</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: Re: [rescue] HP9000/715</FONT>
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Thanks. I stumbled across the "copy bootstrap" choice in sam, and that
 was the key. I made a bootable filesystem on a 400M drive, and mounted
 the 2G drive as an LVM (have to if > 2G??) to get me almos 2.5G total.
 Since I was able to put all the drives in at once, I just did a cp from
 the old noisy drive to the new ones. I had to use two new ones, because
 sam complained that it could only make drives < 1G bootable in HP-UX
 10.20.

I think I may try again since CDE now won't run at boot time, only by
 hand (dtlogin), and then you can only log in as root. Must have boogered
 up permissions somewhere in the cp. (I did a tar of the whole fs before,
 and untarred to refill /usr, but it didn't fix it.)

<P><FONT SIZE=2>I still have the old drive intact; maybe I'll try a dump instead of tar.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Thanks, too for the pointer to mkboot.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Steve</FONT>
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> Randy Bowie wrote:
 > 
 > I would use sam(Disks and File Systems) to make a HFS file system("not
 > using LVM") on the 2Gb, I can't remember if there are options to make
 > it bootable or not.  If not just run mkboot on the device(e.g. mkboot
 > -l /dev/dsk/c0tnd0, see man mkboot).
 > 
 > Then mount the 2Gb file system.
 > 
 > cd to the mount point.
 > 
 > dump 0f - / | restore rf -
 > 
 > Now you can test by rebooting, interrupting the boot process, and then
 > typing "boot path" where path is the 2 Gb drive(use search if you
 > forgot).
 > 
 > Note that dump/restore doesn't care about file system sizes as long as
 > there's enough space.  I would take care to use the same type of file
 > system.
 > 
 > Let me know if I left something out. :)
 > 
 > HTH
 > 
 > -Randy Bowie
 > 
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: ssandau at bath.tmac.com [<A HREF="mailto:ssandau at bath.tmac.com">mailto:ssandau at bath.tmac.com</A>]
 > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 8:42 PM
 > To: rescue at sunhelp.org
 > Subject: [rescue] HP9000/715
 > 
 > Maybe I'm spoiled by using SPARCs, but I'm having a terrible time with
 > 
 > an HP9000 box. All I want to do is put the OS on a quiet 2Gb drive, as
 > 
 > opposed to the noisy 1Gb drive it's on now.
 > 
 > I have software, but it's for a 8xx series and only pretends to
 > install.
 > Ignite HP sounds good, but I have yet to be able to boot from one of
 > its
 > "bootable tapes." (Have an old Archive Viper 1/4" cart drive in the
 > box.)
 > 
 > I don't quite know enough about dd to copy data that way, and I don't
 > know enough about HP's LVM stuff to just copy everything from one
 > drive
 > to the other with a cp command or something. (I can get both SCSI
 > drives
 > in the box at once.)
 > 
 > I was even ready to chuck HP-UX all together and run Debian Linux, but
 > 
 > the "woody" (chuckle) release that supports HP hardware isn't ready
 > yet.
 > The PA Linux bootable CD that I downloaded and burned is only
 > partially
 > bootable. It's recognized, gets through 6 or so lines showing things
 > load, then dies.
 > 
 > Anyone have suggestions? Aside from giving you the hardware. ;)
 > 
 > Steve
 > _______________________________________________
 > rescue maillist  -  rescue at sunhelp.org
 > <A HREF="http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue" TARGET="_blank">http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue</A>

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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Steve Sandau, IS Technician</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>TMA Bath, Maine</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>ssandau at bath.tmac.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>_______________________________________________</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>rescue maillist  -  rescue at sunhelp.org</FONT>
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