Well we ended up spending the money I was gonna spend on a new snazzy IBM ide drive on bathroom remodeling, and ohno had another reboot last night (damn HD errors); anybody got a 5.4-8.4gig IBM IDE drive they'll let go cheap? I've gotta get these Sun-labeled Seagates out of the box.. ugh. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill at mrbill.net Austin, TX