[rescue] Re: [geeks] THIS. MAKES. ME. SICK.

[Dan Sikorski]

In my (admittedly limited) experience, it seems that it's the hardware,
not the software that predicts the long term stability of a machine.
I've seen NT machines with 2years+ uptime, and NT machines that need to
be rebooted every weekend to avoid the inevitable crash during business
hours.  Granted, memory leaks and any number of software problems can
crash a machine, but I feel that it's moreso the hardware that makes or
breaks uptime, and I would put much more confidence in Sun hardware than
Dell or Compaq hardware.

	-Dan Sikorski


-----Original Message-----
From: rescue-admin at sunhelp.org [mailto:rescue-admin at sunhelp.org] On
Behalf Of Joshua D. Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 2:15 PM
To: rescue at sunhelp.org
Subject: RE: [rescue] Re: [geeks] THIS. MAKES. ME. SICK.

To be fair, there are numerous people who have had NT machines with that
sort of uptime.  It also is a miracle that those people weren't cracked,
what with running such an outdated OS and all.

I'm just saying that anyone who is familiar with Windows can set up an
NT
workgroup server.  Before NT, you had to get a real admin in to set up
the
new beast.  And workgroup servers don't really NEED 2 year uptimes, even
if it is something nice to brag about.

Thus, it wasn't any surprise that NT sold so well for file server use.
Plus the pricing was pretty friendly.  You can set up NT workstation as
a workgroup just fine.  With NT4, you are limited to 10 users, but under
NT 3.51 wrkstation, the user count was unlimited.  That meant, find the
old 486 laying around.  Add a new harddrive, stuff in more ram, and
install NT 3.51, and away you go, a new workgroup server for under $500.
Try doing that with Novel.

Obviously, almost any unixish operating system is better and cheaper,
but,
that is only a more recent option.  Back when NT 3.51 was kicking Novels
but, most people hadn't heard of linux or netbsd.

--
Joshua Boyd

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, linc wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Joshua D. Boyd wrote:
> 
> > Frankly, if I had to choose between NT and Novel, I'd severely beat
my
> > head with a frying pan, then I'd take the NT machine.  If the task
was too
> > hard for NT, then I'd have the NT/Novel constraint removed or shoot
> > myself.
> > 
> > --
> > Joshua Boyd
> 
> Start beating.. I have a Novel 3.11 box sitting next to me with an
uptime
> over 2 years - NT can't compete with that.
> 
> -- 
>   3:42pm  up 56 days,  3:40,  4 users,  load average: 1.18, 1.71, 1.75
> 
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