[SunRescue] Ugh. Please read.

[Michael C. Vergallen]

Also Bill, I would not think sun can do anything about your logo
legaly...okey it is similar but not a exact copy of the logo so they can
not legally require you to take it down. I had similar issues ones in the
U.K. with a report I had up and still have around on my server but less
public that raised issues about child-abuse in homes for children. Anyway
to cut it short I ended up talking to my lawyer about it and he stated
that I could use a logo similar to the logo of the original site aslong
as I made a slight change to the name used within the logo so not to
confuse the users of the site. All who have seen the sunhelp logo are
certainly not confused by it. they know who owns the site e.i. you. so
basicaly I think their claims won't stand up in court..and I suspect they
know it but are just trying to intimidate you. Also I sugest you contact
someone at eff.org they can and normaly give out good advice on this
issue. have a look at www.eff.org. their legal department is specialized
in internet legal issues.

Michael
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Mike Nicewonger wrote:

> Well I've been sitting here for a bit thinking about this situation. Most of
> my thoughts are disjointed and arise from profound disappointment on the
> part of Sun.
> 
> I bought my first Sun machine about a year ago, it was an old IPX (I still
> have the little fellow) I had been building a strong dislike for the M$ and
> Intel crowd and silliness, I was looking for something that could do real
> work. I thought then and still do now that Sun was the real deal, awesome
> stuff! The problem I found was that when I turned on my IPX it had a dead
> NVRAM, of course I did not know this at the time, quickly found out, and
> started to look for answers on how to fix this, I found exactly zero on this
> on the Sun web site. Instead with some searching I found Mr. Bill's
> Sunhelp.org where I found the answers I needed and still to this day find
> the help needed to keep my machines going. I was under no illusion about who
> owned the site.
> 
> If I had not found the help I needed I would most likely have sold to
> abandoned the old IPX and gone on to something else. No I work for a company
> that uses Sun equipment and I buy Sun equipment for my own uses at home and
> my side business. I was planing to purchase a bigger Sun box, maybe even
> new....
> 
> The short of it is Bill provides both all of us and Sun with a useful
> service and a valuable point for the Sun community to solve problems from.
> It's sad, I too believe Sun has stepped on its weenie this time. Sun if you
> are reading this, please re-consider your position, sure I understand your
> need to protect your brand, but lets get real here.
> 
> Bill, thank you.
> 
> Sun, well, I think I will keep this thought to myself.
> 
> To us all, who is next?
> 
> Mike N
> 
> > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Bill Bradford wrote:
> >
> > > I just got a FedEx overnighted letter from Sun's legal department; see
> the
> > > news section on the site for details.  needless to say, I may or may not
> > > decide to continue doing SunHELP if I cant post things that I obtain
> from
> > > public web sites without running it through someone for permission
> first...
> > >
> > > Oh, and they dont like my logo either.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
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