[geeks] more on dune

[hike]

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:41 PM, <rjtoegel at verizon.net> wrote:

>   Why do I feel like I'm on an episode of Fringe?  Which universe am I in
>   now?




> The US press has been very pro-Israel.


You are correct, the US press HAS been very pro-Israel.

That  is no longer the case.  It hasn't been for several decades among the
liberal US press and, since the early 1990's, specific conservative
journalists have spoken out against Israel.

As the USA press has liberalized, it has lost its "pro"-Israel stance.  That
is, Helen Thomas' outburst is not a limited or unique phenomenon (sp?).

Nor among USA politicians.  Senator J. Lieberman is considered "odd" when it
comes to Israel and military preparedness.  He is castigated quite
regularly.



> I've also hear that
>   Thomas might have been set up because one of the questions she asks of
>   presidents is why many have been in favor of Palestine being a "state"
>   but they haven't done anything to support that.  The international
>   press have reported that autopsies on those killed have shown the
>   bullet paths were "downward" as if they were shot by someone at a
>   height.  If true, that ain't paintball guns or "non-lethal" weapons.
>   It's funny how the story is now getting buried in the US press.
>   Things are just looking too "fishy".
>   Bob
>   Jun 10, 2010 08:38:05 AM, geeks at sunhelp.org wrote:
>
>     On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Mike Meredith wrote:
>     > On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 20:03:33 +0300, gsm at mendelson.com wrote:
>     > > I'm not surprised you have seen nothing of the paintball guns,
>     it's
>     > > been ignored by the international press. Someday when you wake
>     up and
>     >
>     > Well I'm not sure anyone mentioned "paintball guns", but
>     "non-lethal
>     > weapons" was clearly mentioned by both the BBC and the ITN in the
>     UK.
>     > Perhaps the international press isn't quite so pro-arab as you
>     would
>     > believe.
>     The first international and USA major press releases mentioned that
>     Israeli
>     troops shoot and killed the activists.
>     Later, after the alternative press started the "paintball guns"
>     story and
>     the violent greetings, the international and USA major press could
>     not
>     ignore the accounts and started publishing.
>     The USA major press has been against Israel for a long time. Helen
>     Thomas
>     is not unique in the USA major press. The USA major press has been
>     openly
>     against Israel since GWBush took office.
>     Rueters/UK was even caught photoshopping pictures of the board to
>     reduce the
>     violent nature of the greeting.
>     I don't recall the international press websites that I read but all
>     were
>     Englist-language web-site.
>     Liberal hate Israel.
>     > > The reason the mob could do what they did is as the soldiers
>     were
>     > > lowered one by one from a helicopter, they were immediately shot
>     at
>     > > and attacked by a lynch mob.
>     >
>     > Well even I know that lowering soldiers one by one into a possibly
>     > hostile situation is a Really Dumb tactic. I wonder who came up
>     with
>     > _that_ idea.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > --
>      > Mike Meredith (http://zonky.org/)
>      > There has been such a thing as letting mankind alone; there has
>     never
>     > been such a thing as governing mankind [with success]
>     > -- Zhuangzi
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