[geeks] Drug prices (was Re: nVidia 8800GT for Apple Mac Pro)
Sandwich Maker
adh at an.bradford.ma.us
Fri May 23 10:15:21 CDT 2008
" From: Dan Sikorski <me at dansikorski.com>
"
" Sandwich Maker wrote:
" > " From: Lionel Peterson <lionel4287 at verizon.net>
" > " Personally, I'd like to see Pharma's be prevented from advertising
" > " drugs to consumers here in teh US. That just makes no sense to me -
" > " your Doctor wants to prescribe compound A, but you convince him that
" > " you want compound B because you like the ad they ran in Time Magazine?
" > " WTF?
" >
" > agreed. the info should be available somehow; i've heard of enough
" > cases where the patient was more informed than the doctor, but the
" > slanted half-truths that pass for advertising should be banned.
"
" I've always figured that the advertisements were targeted to people who
" do not go to the doctor and have problems that new drugs could help with.
that's the excuse, but it's sooo attractive to pointy-headed
business mgrs to try and sell -everyone- on it. it's
*just*good*business*, at least superficially.
" For example, there is a new drug for psoriasis. Although i have no clue
" what the effectiveness of it is, let's assume for this example that it's
" very effective. Someone who has psoriasis may have visited the doctor
" several times in their life and never had an effective treatment, or
" never visited a doctor about it because they knew that there were no
" effective treatments. The advertisement informs this person that there
" is a new treatment available and that they should go talk to their
" doctor about it.
contrast this with a bladder-incontinence drug i noticed not too long
ago because the chemical formula description sounded like a b-vitamin
derivative. 25 years ago when i was really into nutrition and
studying chemistry besides, i discovered one of the effects of large
doses of one of the b-complex vitamins is that it relaxes the bladder
muscle...
why invent a drug derivative? you can't patent a vitamin.
" I can justify the existence of the advertisements this way, but I
" certainly will not defend the misleading nature of a lot of them. Some
" of the advertisements I've seen don't really seem to indicate what the
" drug is used to treat, they just made it sound like everyone's life
" would be better if they took it, as long as they're willing to live with
" a laundry list of side effects.
['side effects' is a misnomer for a start. drugs have a constellation
of effects; they just pick one to market for and call the rest
unimportant.]
" As far as the patient being more informed than their doctor, that's not
" difficult. When i have a medical condition, I read as much about it as
" possible. My general practitioner cannot possibly devote that much time
" to researching the specific conditions of all of his patients. I expect
" him to have broad knowledge of health conditions and their treatments.
" On the other hand, if i visit a specialist, that is a different story.
" I would expect a specialist to know much more than me about his specific
" area of expertise.
we're on the same pg here. advertisements should be informational,
not promotional, and doctors aren't all-seeing gods. certainly nobody
has more interest in -your- future than -you-.
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