[geeks] Passwords, etc
John Francini
francini at mac.com
Mon Dec 11 13:08:39 CST 2006
On 11 Dec 2006, at 13:08, Lionel Peterson wrote:
> On 12/11/06, John Francini <francini at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm sorry -- that's tantamount to tattooing a number or a barcode on
>> you. Worse, actually, since it can be read at a distance.
>
>
> Why do you you think a tattoo or barcode *can't* be read at a
> distance? It
> comes down to a question of optics and character recognition,
> nothing more.
Of course.
> An implantable device has a built-in obscurity factor (does he, or
> doesn't
> he have an implant?), and pasive ID tags can only be read so far
> from the
> "chip"/implant (on the order of inches, not feet or yards). To read an
> RFID-type ID at anything resembling a great distance would require (I
> imagine) a massive transmitter to "energize" the RFID tag enough to
> send a
> signal strong enough to be picked up by a massively sensitive
> receiver at
> any significant distance - oh, and I hope your massive transmitter
> doesn't
> overload the front end of your sensetive receiver).
But an implant could have a battery in it as well, which would give
it (potentially) more range, and need a far more modest trigger
signal, as said signal wouldn't have to power the unit as well.
> The unrealistic hype surroundig RFID is just amazing. I've been
> tempted in
> the past to organize a challenge offering, say, $1,000 to anyone
> that can
> successfully read a RFID tag a distance equivalent to the width of a
> two-lane road. A half-prize could be awarded for being able to
> identify the
> presence of an RFID tag accurately from the same distance. A double
> prize to
> the team that can read the data off an RFID tag from across the two-
> lane
> street using a self-contained/self-powered device (think batteries)
> that can
> be hidden in a newspaper vending machine (18" square base, 36" tall).
>
> Gawd, work with these wretched little devices for a while and you
> become
> very cynical about these privacy claims.
>
For the moment. But there's likely to be people working on ways
around these 'minor problems', because there's money to be made.
>
>> If it could be used by an office it could also be used by a
>> government to collect information on your whereabouts at all times.
>
>
> Yeah, thanks to the governments MASSIVE ARRAY of readers placed on
> every
> street corner that sheeple are to dumb to avoid...
Yes, I know it's tinfoil-hattery, but whenever someone thinks 'only'
of the benefits of one of these double-edged sword technologies, it's
important to also note how they could be used for harm.
john
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