[geeks] 4th Amendment Gone

[Phil Stracchino]

On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 10:26:16PM +0000, Mike Meredith wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:39:37 -0500, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 09:19:45PM +0000, Mike Meredith wrote:
> > > rocks at the US ... the same thing is happening in the UK.
> > 
> > From what I hear, it's happening faster in the UK than here.  My
> 
> Could be, although we haven't hurriedly constructed something as large
> and sinister as the Department of Homeland Security (is it just me, or
> does that name strike anyone as something that might exist in 1930's
> Germany?). On the other hand the Home Secretary has acquired some
> disturbing powers recently.

In that context, allow me to point out the following article:

http://alt.venus.co.uk/weed/current/hartman1.htm

There are scary parallels.


> > bleak stories to tell when he came back.  He said, "The England I grew
> > up in and loved is dead."
> 
> The bleak stories would make a difference, although most older people
> prefer things the way they were when they were younger. It's easy to
> overlook aspects of the past ... for instance your dad sounds old enough
> to remember food rationing which was pretty grim for those who normally
> could afford a better lifestyle (although it's worth remembering that
> the miserly rations actually improved the diet of many of the poorest).


Yup, he was born in 1935, grew up during the war, and got an arms-length
view once of a V1 that came crashing through a landing window and slid
down the stairs in front of him, but failed to detonate.  (Shortly
afterward, he was evacuated to Somerset.)


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