[geeks] Itanium 32 bit performace.... hahahaha

doctor obnox son of a bitch drobnox at visi.com
Sat Dec 20 03:25:23 CST 2003


Jonathan C. Patschke spoke in riddles, like the night...

> On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Jochen Kunz wrote:
> 
> > > KDE and Gnome both suffer from a lack of discipline still.
> > What do you expect from a bunch of WinKidz, suffering from featureitis,
> > that converted to Linux to be c00l?
> 
> This would be why I left the Linux scene.  In late 2000 or so, there was
> a significant shift from "let's build a free Unix that works as well as
> $commercialOS" to "let's build a free Windows with Unix underneath".
> 
> At that point, you just have to wonder WTF.  I have to admit that coming
> from the easy-to-use Linux world, adapting to the BSDs was hard, but the
> BSDs still have the feel of the computer being -yours-, not belonging to
> some newbie developer trying to cram pixmaps and texinfo into every corner.
> 
> > A loong time ago I tried the enlightenment window manager. What a
> > bloated pile of shit.
> 
> They've never claimed to be anything but.  Enlightenment was one of the
> first WMs that I remember whose first (only?) goal was to look nice
> right out of the tarball.  I ran it back in 1997 or 1998, and I remember
> it being dog-slow on my ancient S3 video card, but it sure did look nice.
> 
> I ran it briefly while I was at Rice, but it was just too painful on a
> Sparcstation 4.
> 
> > hossed my mbox files. mv balsa /dev/null.  Now I am trying sylpheed.
> > Seams to work better. Only two examples. I stay away from that KDE and
> > GNOME stuff nearly as much as I avoid Windows.
> 
> I can't claim any better experience.  My system at work is a 1.2GHz IBM
> p615 system.  It's not slow by any possible definition.  KDE's still a
> dog on it.
> 
> I really like running PINE inside of rxvt under WindowMaker, though. :)
> 

 At home, my primary desktop box is a pII-266 running NetBSD-1.6.1. I've
 tried both Gnome2 and KDE3 on it. Gnome took about 2 weeks to build from
 pkgsrc (had to hand-hack the .buildlink directories for EVERYTHING!),
 and was very unsatisfactory in its handling of TrueType fonts. KDE
 built with almost no problems, looked clean and tight, but was still a
 bit too slow. I've left both of them on the box, but now I just start X
 with a single xTerm and wmx (http://www.all-day-breakfast.com/wmx/ ),
 and start up the few KDE and Gnome proggies I liked by hand. Perverse,
 I guess, but hey, it's MY box.

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