[geeks] Why is everyone so OSX happy?

[Kevin]

1.) pointed out in a previous post.

2.) i never made any mention of themes or make any
major changes such as widgets or toolboxes.  I just
don't need cartoon animation on my screen if it slows
it down.  Or transparencies.

3.) I realize that they are separate buses, all of
which are scanned at boot time.  OSX fails to boot
properly when certain USB devices are plugged into the
system i am referring to.  It is very sporadic but
unplugging all USB devices always fixes the problem.

4.) also pointed out in a previous post.

And finally, no i am am not the guy talking about U10s,
point in fact i have never even touched one.

/KRM


On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:44:37 -0500
"Jonathan C. Patschke" <jp at celestrion.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Kevin wrote:
> 
> > I don't mean to offend anyone here (with the
> > possible exception of Steve Jobs) but i am curious
> > as to why so many people here seem to love OSX,
> > especially people who understand and are familiar
> > with other unices?  In my eyes, OSX is an
> > unpolished, tacky, eye candy bloated mess.
> 
> OSX isn't Unix.  It's OpenStep.  Yes, they call it
> Unix, but it's no more Unix than OpenStep is. 
> There's a -reason- uname reports version 6.x.
> 
> > 1. There are seriously, a TON of UI
> > inconsistencies, something that doesn't make sense
> > because Apple has always been very good in this
> > regard.
> 
> Care to point some out?
> 
> > 2. I don't have any problems with them offering the
> > eye candy stuff for those who want it or even with
> > it being the default operation.  I do have major
> > issues with them not giving users a way to turn
> > most of it off.
> 
> And how would you turn it off?  What is your plan for
> presenting a consistent set of GUI widgets that can
> be configured?  Themes?  BZZT! Wrong answer--themes
> cost you a significant amount of
> hardware-acceleration.  Mac OSX runs -significantly-
> faster on my Pismo than Windows XP does on an
> equivalent PC laptop, and XP has the option for
> turning all the candy off.
> 
> > 3. OSX has several issues with USB devices on boot,
> > especially if you are booting from SCSI devices and
> > not IDE.
> 
> USB and SCSI and IDE are completely different buses. 
> What are you talking about?
> 
> > 4. There are several places where the code is just
> > simply not finished.  The file manager for
> > instance.
> 
> What's not finished about it?  My main complaint
> about the finder is that it tries to do -too- much
> and is too slow.
> 
> > But until then i only deal with the dual G4 when
> > absolutely necessary.
> 
> I can trade you an Ultra 10 running your OS of choice
> for it.  You were the guy who thought the U10s get
> too much negative press here, rigth? That way, we can
> both be happy! :)
> 
> > So please someone, let me know what is so @%$&*@#!
> > great about it?  Then perhaps i will see the light
> > too....
> 
> 1) It runs Unix apps, Macintosh apps, and (with
> VirtualPC) PC apps.  I
>    don't have to reboot to switch between doing real
>    work and editing an Excel spreadsheet (as I would
>    if I were using a dual-boot BSD/Windows system).
> 2) It has a -terrific- API for writing software;
> Cocoa is one of the
>    neatest frameworks I've ever seen for developing
>    applications and reusable components quickly, and,
>    as GNUstep matures, Cocoa becomes more portable.
> 
> -- 
> Jonathan Patschke  *)  Q:  What do you call the hum
> of a rack of Apple Thorndale, TX      (*     
> XServes?
>                    *)  A:  The Al Gore Rhythm.
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