[geeks] Ahh, the smell of Athlon's burning up

[Shawn Wallbridge]

Check the overclocking scene, I have seen round 80conductor IDE cables.
Actually one of my suppliers stocks them, in all kinds of colors.

Personally I don't trust them, they went to 80 conductor cables (every
second wire is a ground) for a reason. If you run your cables properly*, I
don't think they will block much airflow.

shawn

* my definition of properly is probably not everyone elses definition.

-----Original Message-----
From: geeks-admin at sunhelp.org [mailto:geeks-admin at sunhelp.org]On Behalf
Of Gregory Leblanc
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:02 PM
To: Geeks
Subject: Re: [geeks] Ahh, the smell of Athlon's burning up


On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 11:56, Joshua D Boyd wrote:
> On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 12:30:08PM -0700, Rick Hamell wrote:
> > > > 	Then you're in the 10% of the problems that aren't related to the
> > > > MB. :) Overheating is a problem granted. The problem is that the
normal PC
> > > > was not meant to efficently cooled, yet another design flaw from the
> > > > start. (But then who ever thought in the early 80's that it WOULD be
a
> > > > problem some day?)
> > >
> > > What does the heat disipation desicions of the 80s PC have to do with
today's
> > > machines overheating?
> >
> > 	They weren't thought of at all. If so the standards would have
> > been changed make cables be fastened down and routed along the side of
the
> > case. Or the cards would have been installed horizontally to the MB
> > instead of vertical.
> > 	Look inside a Sparc 20 for instance... think those short cables
> > with the guides to keep it down are to just make it look pretty? The
same
> > with the vents on the sides near the PS and by the cards.
> > 	The standard that created a PC was a stop-gap measure, not meant
> > to actually get into production, and certainly not for more then a
couple
> > of years, let alone 20+ years later.
> > 	Otherwise IBM would have done a MUCH better job designing it.
>
> But those are all issues that could easily have been put in the ATX spec.
>
> Further, well designed ATX cases can deal with it for most ATX mother
boards
> by moving drives away from the motherboard (ala HP Netservers from the
PPro
> era).
>
> And then there are round cables, which aren't perfect, but don't really
block
> airflow.

Ever seen a round IDE cable?  I know where to get them for internal SCSI
(I think), but not IDE, and certainly not the 80-conductor ones.
	Greg

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