>> http://www.sun.com >> >> Dual 1.05Ghz, new graphics card, 24" flatpanel. *wank* > Jeez, I can't five years to pick one of those up for $800 8-) I have to ask myself why these beasts dont come with gigabit ethernet. Anyone? And yeah, I've got not one, but two crimsons. I cant even begin to think about "affording" one five years ago, let alone ten. alex