[SunHELP] Re: SunHELP digest, Vol 1 #1193 - 15 msgs

Laurence Cohen sunhelp at sunhelp.org
Fri Aug 10 09:10:10 CDT 2001


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Are you running the process in the background, as well as with nohup?

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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. nohup problems (John Kennedy)
>    2. Re: Hard drive. (John Kennedy)
>    3. RE: Seeding for apple network (Tim Conrad)
>    4. Best Way to Veritas NetBackup and Restore? (Foong, Tzeweng)
>    5. RE: Best Way to Veritas NetBackup and Restore? (Foong, Tzeweng)
>    6. fsck (Sangbutsarakum, Patai)
>    7. Re: Keyboard wackiness? (Simon Annear)
>    8. Re: Hard drive. (Hichael Morton)
>    9. Re: Keyboard wackiness? (David Rouse)
>   10. Re: fsck (David Rouse)
>   11. Using a PC keyboard/mouse with Ultra5/10's (Low, Adam)
>   12. test (Sangbutsarakum, Patai)
>   13. restoring from dds3 tape (Swamy_CNN at satyam-infoway.com)
>   14. RE: restoring from dds3 tape (Peter Stokes)
>   15. Re: KVM recommendations (Steve Wingate)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 16:36:47 -0400
> From: John Kennedy <jckennedy at agere.com>
> Organization: Agere Systems
> To: SunHelp <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: [SunHELP] nohup problems
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> We have a user who is dialing into a Solaris 8 box that is isolated from the
> network.  Whenever the user tries to nohup a job then logs out the process
> dies.  We have had a local user test it and got the same results.  The error we
> get in nohup.out is "Process terminated by kill."
> Where else can I go to find out why no hup will not keep processes running?
> Thanks,
> John
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 16:38:44 -0400
> From: John Kennedy <jckennedy at agere.com>
> Organization: Agere Systems
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Hard drive.
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> I thought the Sparcstation 10 used SCSI with a "special" Sun connection that
> doubled the price of the drive....
> John
>
> "Meng, Andrew" wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > A Hard drive in a Sparcstation 10 seems to be damaged. I am wondring if I
> > can use a normal IDE disk for PC to replace it or I have to get a sun
> > specific hard disk? By the way, where I can find the floppy boot image(sol
> > 8) to boot the system and use some kind of software to repair the damage
> > disk?
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> > Andrew
> >
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 17:31:09 -0400
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> From: "Tim Conrad" <tconrad at edisonschools.com>
> Subject: RE: [SunHELP] Seeding for apple network
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> You  might want to check out netatalk.
>
> While i'm mostly making this up by the seat of my pants. Which is how I
> usually fly. I think that if you aren't routing appletalk, that the
> machines themselves can seed themselves. They'll simply assign themself an
> appletalk address, and then ask the network if it's being used or not. (Or
> something along those lines) If it's being used, it'll simply randomly pick
> another one and try again.
>
> (I just know that I've worked in a lot of relatively simple AppleTalk
> networks, and never have had anything specifically configured to seed the
> network. The AppleShare IP server, may, but when it's only configured to
> use IP and not AppleTalk, it probably isn't seeding the network.)
>
> Then again, I have 0 clue what 'totalnet' is.
>
> Tim
>
> At 02:21 PM 8/8/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >You only need to seed if you are going to have zones. Usually you separate
> >zones with routers. Therefore, usually you need a router to seed the net.
> >
> >You have an alternative if you have the Mac Server Software. That could seed
> >too (though I never have done it that way).
> >
> >If you have a Cisco router you can use the IOS versions that support
> >Appletalk to seed the net. If you need such an IOS I can help.
> >
> >I have seen snippets of support for Appletalk (ethertalk actually) under
> >Linux. Perhaps a Linuxboxen could seed. I have never played with Apple under
> >linux, so no idea of its capabilities (my large scale Mac networking days
> >preceeded my Linux days).
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wolfgang Engelien [mailto:wolfgang at hanazono.med.cornell.edu]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:10 PM
> > > To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> > > Subject: [SunHELP] Seeding for apple network
> > >
> > >
>
>  > Hi all,
>  >
>  > I try to get rid of totalnet, but I might need a
>  > way to seed an apple network. Is there some freeware
>  > available to seed an apple network?
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  > Wolfgang
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> Message: 4
> From: "Foong, Tzeweng" <Tzeweng.Foong at team.telstra.com>
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:39:51 +1000
> Subject: [SunHELP] Best Way to Veritas NetBackup and Restore?
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> Hello
>
> This is a back-up newbie speaking.!! Please help.
>
> I need to create ways to
>    1) Automatically Install veritas backup
>
>    2) At a specific times do full backups.
>
>    3) Do a full recovery.
>
> I know some of you may be thinking its simple just do it.
> But I need some advice / guidance.
>
> 1) Firstly.. I have Box which says "Veritas  NetBackup, DataCenter, Unix
> v3.4"
>
> In the box I have 8 manuals of varying thicknesses. I need to install the
> software yesterday. So its not going to happen!! Which manual shoud I read
> first.
>
> What I have are several Stand Alone Solaris boxes. Each are connected to the
>
> internet and run a webserver. (I work for an ISP which does on site
> Hosting).
> Individually they need to be backed up( Just like I would back up the PC on
> my desk). They each have their own tape drive, and, they do not talk to
> each other. So what software do I need to install. Do I need the
> DataCenter (Didnt think so). From the manuals It looks like there is a
> client
> and a server in NetBackup. BUT I DONT HAVE A SERVER. All the boxes
> think they are the center of the universe. Do i need to install both the
> client
> and the server on each of the boxes? so that each can do their own backup
> and restore? Or only the client is enough? O only the server is enough.
>
> 2) I guess I need a Cron job to run a nightly back up script. What is a good
>
> general purpose script to do a full backup? I guess when I figured out (1)
> above (2) would be a piece of cake.
>
> 3) Is there some way to automate a restore? My task is to be able to
> restore lost of machines at the same time. We dont have many machines
> at this time but it is expected to grow to large numbers (Thats why I am
> doing
> this now)
>
> Any usefull hint or advice would be appreciated. Code snippets would be
> gratefully
> disected. Please keep in mind we are trying to be able to install 1000's of
> machines
> so as automated as posible would be good. But I will be really happy with
> ANY pointers
> at all at the moment as I an really clueless !! ;-)
>
> Thanks In Advance !!
>
> TW the clueless
>
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> Message: 5
> From: "Foong, Tzeweng" <Tzeweng.Foong at team.telstra.com>
> To: William Enestvedt <wenestvedt at jwu.edu>
> Cc: "'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'" <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: RE: [SunHELP] Best Way to Veritas NetBackup and Restore?
> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:39:52 +1000
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> William,
>
> Thank you for your reply.
>
> I hope you can help me further. What I have is a lot of "stand alone"
> servers.
> >From your quick description of netbackup DataCenter It looks like it does
> not
> match my requirements. Ie I will not have a Master Server nor media servers.
>
> What I have are lots of clients. Can I install all 3 pieces of software on
> each
> of the servers and have them act as the "client", "master" and "media"?
>
> If DataCetner is not apropriate then can you suggest an alternative?
>
> I had a look at the veritas web site and there seems to be another product
> called
> NetBackup BusinesServer
>
> Is this what I really need?
>
> Thanks
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: William Enestvedt [SMTP:wenestvedt at jwu.edu]
> > Sent: Monday, 6 August 2001 23:00
> > To:   'Foong, Tzeweng'
> > Subject:      RE: [SunHELP] Best Way to Veritas NetBackup and Restore?
> >
> > The DataCenter version of Veritas NetBackup (NBU, as it is usually
> > abbreviated) is very poewrful and flexible, but I wonder if it's
> > appropriate
> > for your situation.
> >     Generally, there is a NBU Master Server which tells the client(s) when
> > to back up and where. There are other servers which have a tape drive
> > directly connected to them (i.e. by a SCSI cable, not across a network),
> > which are called Media Servers. The Master Server maintains a database of
> > which NBU clients (which can include the Master Server and any Media
> > Servers) back up, at what times, and will prompt the administrator for
> > tapes. Last, there is client software which manages the back-up process
> > for
> > the client computer.
> >    I'm wondering how/why NBU was suggested for your situation, as a
> > network
> > interruption would make it impossible for the Master Server to reach the
> > remote web server with the command to restore data. Have you speken with a
> > reseller about the particular details of your set-up?
> > -wde
> > --
> > Will Enestvedt
> > UNIX System Administrator
> > Johnson & Wales University
> > WEnestvedt at jwu.edu    (401) 598-1584
>
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> Message: 6
> From: "Sangbutsarakum, Patai" <patais at reach.com>
> To: "'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'" <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:19:11 +0700
> Subject: [SunHELP] fsck
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> Dear folks
>
> I've read about system administartor of Solaris.
> In the chapter that say about fsck. it said
>
> "Run the fsck utility in single-user mode or on unmounted file system only.
> But you can't unmount the root and /usr file system"
>
> So, how can I do, can I do fsck on root,/usr file system ??
>
> Please suggest
> Patrick.
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:43:58 +1200
> From: Simon Annear <simon.annear at solnet.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Keyboard wackiness?
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
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> Hi Ben/all
>
> One thing that hasn't been mentioned - but you can simply plug the keyboard
> back in, type go and your machine will be back at the same state as when you
> unplugged it, ie running as usual (albeit with a big gap in any logs).  This
> is kinda useful if you have a server running - you pull out the kb expecting
> it to stay running and it goes to the OBP, you can simply plug the kb back
> in, type go and most users will not notice anything but a short outage.
>
> Simon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hichael Morton <mh1272 at yahoo.com>
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>; Ben Ricker
> <bricker at wellinx.com>
> Date: Friday, August 10, 2001 9:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Keyboard wackiness?
>
> >Ben,
> >
> >Your E250 is designed to go to the ok prompt when the keyboard is
> >unplugged.  In certain situations that I have encountered, it is a good
> >feature.
> >
> >When your E250 is at the ok prompt, it has finished its POST (Power On
> >Self Test) and is waiting for instructions for maintenance or booting.
> >Open Boot Prompt (OBP) is another name for this state.  Single User mode
> >is reached after the E250 boots.
> >
> >docs.sun.com should have online/downloadable manuals on the OBP/ok
> >prompt and Sun spends time in the hardware and sysadmin class on how to
> >use the OBP.  It really is a nifty tool and can be used to customize
> >your E250 by creating aliases and the hardware level.
> >
> >
> >Hope this helps!
> >
> >Michael
> >
> >
> >Ben Ricker wrote:
> >>
> >> I had a weird problem. We house a Sun E250 at a CoLo site. I have a Sun
> >> keyboard plugged into it. I mistook the Sun keyboard for another
> >> keyboard (which I used for Linux machines) and unplugged it. I thought
> >> nothing of it and plugged the Sun keyboard back in.
> >>
> >> Came back to my desk and the Sun was dead; no pings, nothing. Went back
> >> to CoLo and the terminal showed the 'Ok' prompt (single-user mode?).
> >> What the heck happened there?
> >>
> >> Ben Ricker
> >> System Administrator
> >> Wellinx.com
> >>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 20:31:57 -0400
> From: Hichael Morton <mh1272 at yahoo.com>
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org, jckennedy at agere.com
> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Hard drive.
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> John,
>
> Sparc 10s use Fast SCSI hard drives (also called SCSI-2 by some).  These
> drives use 50-pin connectors (2 rows x 25 pins).  All the Sun SCSI
> connectors that I have ever seen use industray standard connectors.
>
> You may be thinking of the SBus connector that most SparcStations use
> for their system board connectors (like PCs use ISA, EISA, VLB, PBI
> connectors on their mother boards).  Even these SBus and other Sun
> connectors are open for other vendors to manufacture SBus cards.  (Sun
> also has used other connectors on various system boards but SBus seems
> to be the mainstay for Sparcstations.)
>
> Or you may be thinking of the fact that Sun was using Fast SCSI hard
> drives with the HD-50 connector while PCs were using the
> Centronics-style connector.
>
> Sun-branded hard drives are more expensive because, according to Sun,
> they spec and test their hard drive to higher standards and because,
> when under service contracts, they are warrantied for the life of the
> contract.
>
> I have used Sun hard drives in PCs with Adaptec controller and non-Sun
> hard drives in Sun machines without any problems.  The connectors are
> plug-and-play so to speak.
>
> The current Sun Field Engineer shows only industry standard connectors
> on the hard drives used by Sun.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Michael
>
> John Kennedy wrote:
> >
> > I thought the Sparcstation 10 used SCSI with a "special" Sun connection that
> > doubled the price of the drive....
> > John
> >
> > "Meng, Andrew" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > A Hard drive in a Sparcstation 10 seems to be damaged. I am wondring if I
> > > can use a normal IDE disk for PC to replace it or I have to get a sun
> > > specific hard disk? By the way, where I can find the floppy boot image(sol
> > > 8) to boot the system and use some kind of software to repair the damage
> > > disk?
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot!
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 21:40:43 -0400
> From: David Rouse <david at rouseworld.org>
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Keyboard wackiness?
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> On Thursday, August 9, 2001, at 04:40  PM, Ben Ricker wrote:
>
> > I had a weird problem. We house a Sun E250 at a CoLo site. I have a Sun
> > keyboard plugged into it. I mistook the Sun keyboard for another
> > keyboard (which I used for Linux machines) and unplugged it. I thought
> > nothing of it and plugged the Sun keyboard back in.
>
> Another option for 250s is to turn the power key to the locked position.
> That should also prevent changes to the eeprom settings (better check
> the manual on that one).
>
> --
> David Rouse
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 21:50:03 -0400
> From: David Rouse <david at rouseworld.org>
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] fsck
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> On Thursday, August 9, 2001, at 01:19  AM, Sangbutsarakum, Patai wrote:
>
> > So, how can I do, can I do fsck on root,/usr file system ??
> >
>
>  From 'man fsck'
>
> WARNINGS
>       The operating system buffers file system data.  Running fsck
>       on  a  mounted  file system can cause the operating system's
>       buffers to become out of date with respect to the disk.  For
>       this  reason,  the file system should be unmounted when fsck
>       is used. If this is not possible, care should be taken  that
>       the  system is quiescent and that it is rebooted immediately
>       after fsck  is run. Quite often, however, this will  not  be
>       sufficient.   A  panic  will probably occur if running  fsck
>       on a file system modifies the file system.
>
> So, just so it from single-user and then reboot.
>
> You could also, theoretically, boot from a Soalris install CD and use
> the CD's fsck.
>
> --
> David Rouse
>
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>
> Message: 11
> From: "Low, Adam" <ALow at Prioritytelecom.com>
> To: "'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'" <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:23:04 +0200
> Subject: [SunHELP] Using a PC keyboard/mouse with Ultra5/10's
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've having some fun with VNC to share my Sun keyboard/mouse with my W2K desktop but the Sun keyboard/mouse I have are very old and clunky. Is anyone aware of a similar method (non-hardware) but allowing use of a W2k keyboard/mouse to be shared on a Sun Solaris box, ideally over IP ?
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>
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>
> Message: 12
> From: "Sangbutsarakum, Patai" <patais at reach.com>
> To: "'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'" <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:41:34 +0700
> Subject: [SunHELP] test
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
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>
> Message: 13
> From: Swamy_CNN at satyam-infoway.com
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:06:24 +0530
> Subject: [SunHELP] restoring from dds3 tape
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
>                                               Placed At :
>
> Hi all,
>      I have dds3 tape in a dds3 tape drive. I'm able to read the contents
> through "tar tvf ", but i'm not able to restore it to my hard disk. Infact "tar
> xvf " is not extracting anything, Following is an o/p that i got..
> # ls
> # tar xvf /dev/rmt/0 /export/home
> # ls
>
> thanks,
> swamy
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> From: "Peter Stokes" <peter at ashlyn.co.uk>
> To: <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: RE: [SunHELP] restoring from dds3 tape
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:54:24 +0100
> Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>
> Hi
>
> The command you are entering will extract everything on the tape in
> directory /export/home TO /export/home on your system, hence you will not
> see anything in the local directory.
>
> If you want to restore relative to where you are, you need to save the data
> on tape relative as well e.g. if you want to save /export/home, you would
>
> cd /export/home
> tar cvf /dev/rmt0 .
>
> Then to restore to say /my/directory
>
> cd /my/directory
> tar xvf /dev/rmt0 .
>
> Peter
> ---------------------------------
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> Ashlyn Computer Services Ltd
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sunhelp-admin at sunhelp.org [mailto:sunhelp-admin at sunhelp.org]On
> Behalf Of Swamy_CNN at satyam-infoway.com
> Sent: 10 August 2001 09:36
> To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> Subject: [SunHELP] restoring from dds3 tape
>
>                                               Placed At :
>
> Hi all,
>      I have dds3 tape in a dds3 tape drive. I'm able to read the contents
> through "tar tvf ", but i'm not able to restore it to my hard disk. Infact
> "tar
> xvf " is not extracting anything, Following is an o/p that i got..
> # ls
> # tar xvf /dev/rmt/0 /export/home
> # ls
>
> thanks,
> swamy
>
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> From: "Steve Wingate" <steve at velosystems.net>
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> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] KVM recommendations
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 02:00:13 -0700
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> KVM recommendationsFor what it's worth we've standardized on Avocent =
> Autoview 400's for our colocation facilities. They each control a Compaq =
> DL380, a Sun E450 and an Ultra 5. They support both USB and Sun without =
> external adapters.=20
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>   The good news is that we now have enough Suns to justify needing a KVM =
> switch for them. The bad news is, well, the same thing.
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>   All I can seem to find are peecee KVMs which require $150-per-port =
> protocol converters to work with Sun equipment. Can anyone recommend a =
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Are you running the process in the background, as well as with nohup?
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<p>Today's Topics:
<p>   1. nohup problems (John Kennedy)
<br>   2. Re: Hard drive. (John Kennedy)
<br>   3. RE: Seeding for apple network (Tim Conrad)
<br>   4. Best Way to Veritas NetBackup and Restore? (Foong,
Tzeweng)
<br>   5. RE: Best Way to Veritas NetBackup and Restore? (Foong,
Tzeweng)
<br>   6. fsck (Sangbutsarakum, Patai)
<br>   7. Re: Keyboard wackiness? (Simon Annear)
<br>   8. Re: Hard drive. (Hichael Morton)
<br>   9. Re: Keyboard wackiness? (David Rouse)
<br>  10. Re: fsck (David Rouse)
<br>  11. Using a PC keyboard/mouse with Ultra5/10's (Low, Adam)
<br>  12. test (Sangbutsarakum, Patai)
<br>  13. restoring from dds3 tape (Swamy_CNN at satyam-infoway.com)
<br>  14. RE: restoring from dds3 tape (Peter Stokes)
<br>  15. Re: KVM recommendations (Steve Wingate)
<p>--__--__--
<p>Message: 1
<br>Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 16:36:47 -0400
<br>From: John Kennedy <jckennedy at agere.com>
<br>Organization: Agere Systems
<br>To: SunHelp <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
<br>Subject: [SunHELP] nohup problems
<br>Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<p>We have a user who is dialing into a Solaris 8 box that is isolated
from the
<br>network.  Whenever the user tries to nohup a job then logs out
the process
<br>dies.  We have had a local user test it and got the same results. 
The error we
<br>get in nohup.out is "Process terminated by kill."
<br>Where else can I go to find out why no hup will not keep processes
running?
<br>Thanks,
<br>John
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<p>Message: 2
<br>Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 16:38:44 -0400
<br>From: John Kennedy <jckennedy at agere.com>
<br>Organization: Agere Systems
<br>To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<br>Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Hard drive.
<br>Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<p>I thought the Sparcstation 10 used SCSI with a "special" Sun connection
that
<br>doubled the price of the drive....
<br>John
<p>"Meng, Andrew" wrote:
<br>>
<br>> Hello,
<br>>
<br>> A Hard drive in a Sparcstation 10 seems to be damaged. I am wondring
if I
<br>> can use a normal IDE disk for PC to replace it or I have to get a
sun
<br>> specific hard disk? By the way, where I can find the floppy boot
image(sol
<br>> 8) to boot the system and use some kind of software to repair the
damage
<br>> disk?
<br>>
<br>> Thanks a lot!
<br>> Andrew
<br>>
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<p>Message: 3
<br>Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 17:31:09 -0400
<br>To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<br>From: "Tim Conrad" <tconrad at edisonschools.com>
<br>Subject: RE: [SunHELP] Seeding for apple network
<br>Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<p>You  might want to check out netatalk.
<p>While i'm mostly making this up by the seat of my pants. Which is how
I
<br>usually fly. I think that if you aren't routing appletalk, that the
<br>machines themselves can seed themselves. They'll simply assign themself
an
<br>appletalk address, and then ask the network if it's being used or not.
(Or
<br>something along those lines) If it's being used, it'll simply randomly
pick
<br>another one and try again.
<p>(I just know that I've worked in a lot of relatively simple AppleTalk
<br>networks, and never have had anything specifically configured to seed
the
<br>network. The AppleShare IP server, may, but when it's only configured
to
<br>use IP and not AppleTalk, it probably isn't seeding the network.)
<p>Then again, I have 0 clue what 'totalnet' is.
<p>Tim
<p>At 02:21 PM 8/8/2001 -0700, you wrote:
<br>>You only need to seed if you are going to have zones. Usually you
separate
<br>>zones with routers. Therefore, usually you need a router to seed the
net.
<br>>
<br>>You have an alternative if you have the Mac Server Software. That
could seed
<br>>too (though I never have done it that way).
<br>>
<br>>If you have a Cisco router you can use the IOS versions that support
<br>>Appletalk to seed the net. If you need such an IOS I can help.
<br>>
<br>>I have seen snippets of support for Appletalk (ethertalk actually)
under
<br>>Linux. Perhaps a Linuxboxen could seed. I have never played with Apple
under
<br>>linux, so no idea of its capabilities (my large scale Mac networking
days
<br>>preceeded my Linux days).
<br>>
<br>> > -----Original Message-----
<br>> > From: Wolfgang Engelien [<a href="mailto:wolfgang at hanazono.med.cornell.edu">mailto:wolfgang at hanazono.med.cornell.edu</a>]
<br>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:10 PM
<br>> > To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<br>> > Subject: [SunHELP] Seeding for apple network
<br>> >
<br>> >
<p> > Hi all,
<br> >
<br> > I try to get rid of totalnet, but I might need a
<br> > way to seed an apple network. Is there some freeware
<br> > available to seed an apple network?
<br> >
<br> > Thanks,
<br> > Wolfgang
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<p>Message: 4
<br>From: "Foong, Tzeweng" <Tzeweng.Foong at team.telstra.com>
<br>To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<br>Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:39:51 +1000
<br>Subject: [SunHELP] Best Way to Veritas NetBackup and Restore?
<br>Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<p>Hello
<p>This is a back-up newbie speaking.!! Please help.
<p>I need to create ways to
<br>   1) Automatically Install veritas backup
<p>   2) At a specific times do full backups.
<p>   3) Do a full recovery.
<p>I know some of you may be thinking its simple just do it.
<br>But I need some advice / guidance.
<p>1) Firstly.. I have Box which says "Veritas  NetBackup, DataCenter,
Unix
<br>v3.4"
<p>In the box I have 8 manuals of varying thicknesses. I need to install
the
<br>software yesterday. So its not going to happen!! Which manual shoud
I read
<br>first.
<p>What I have are several Stand Alone Solaris boxes. Each are connected
to the
<p>internet and run a webserver. (I work for an ISP which does on site
<br>Hosting).
<br>Individually they need to be backed up( Just like I would back up the
PC on
<br>my desk). They each have their own tape drive, and, they do not talk
to
<br>each other. So what software do I need to install. Do I need the
<br>DataCenter (Didnt think so). From the manuals It looks like there is
a
<br>client
<br>and a server in NetBackup. BUT I DONT HAVE A SERVER. All the boxes
<br>think they are the center of the universe. Do i need to install both
the
<br>client
<br>and the server on each of the boxes? so that each can do their own
backup
<br>and restore? Or only the client is enough? O only the server is enough.
<p>2) I guess I need a Cron job to run a nightly back up script. What is
a good
<p>general purpose script to do a full backup? I guess when I figured out
(1)
<br>above (2) would be a piece of cake.
<p>3) Is there some way to automate a restore? My task is to be able to
<br>restore lost of machines at the same time. We dont have many machines
<br>at this time but it is expected to grow to large numbers (Thats why
I am
<br>doing
<br>this now)
<p>Any usefull hint or advice would be appreciated. Code snippets would
be
<br>gratefully
<br>disected. Please keep in mind we are trying to be able to install 1000's
of
<br>machines
<br>so as automated as posible would be good. But I will be really happy
with
<br>ANY pointers
<br>at all at the moment as I an really clueless !! ;-)
<p>Thanks In Advance !!
<p>TW the clueless
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<p>Message: 5
<br>From: "Foong, Tzeweng" <Tzeweng.Foong at team.telstra.com>
<br>To: William Enestvedt <wenestvedt at jwu.edu>
<br>Cc: "'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'" <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
<br>Subject: RE: [SunHELP] Best Way to Veritas NetBackup and Restore?
<br>Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:39:52 +1000
<br>Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<p>William,
<p>Thank you for your reply.
<p>I hope you can help me further. What I have is a lot of "stand alone"
<br>servers.
<br>>From your quick description of netbackup DataCenter It looks like
it does
<br>not
<br>match my requirements. Ie I will not have a Master Server nor media
servers.
<p>What I have are lots of clients. Can I install all 3 pieces of software
on
<br>each
<br>of the servers and have them act as the "client", "master" and "media"?
<p>If DataCetner is not apropriate then can you suggest an alternative?
<p>I had a look at the veritas web site and there seems to be another product
<br>called
<br>NetBackup BusinesServer
<p>Is this what I really need?
<p>Thanks
<p>> -----Original Message-----
<br>> From: William Enestvedt [SMTP:wenestvedt at jwu.edu]
<br>> Sent: Monday, 6 August 2001 23:00
<br>> To:   'Foong, Tzeweng'
<br>> Subject:      RE: [SunHELP] Best Way to
Veritas NetBackup and Restore?
<br>>
<br>> The DataCenter version of Veritas NetBackup (NBU, as it is usually
<br>> abbreviated) is very poewrful and flexible, but I wonder if it's
<br>> appropriate
<br>> for your situation.
<br>>     Generally, there is a NBU Master Server which
tells the client(s) when
<br>> to back up and where. There are other servers which have a tape drive
<br>> directly connected to them (i.e. by a SCSI cable, not across a network),
<br>> which are called Media Servers. The Master Server maintains a database
of
<br>> which NBU clients (which can include the Master Server and any Media
<br>> Servers) back up, at what times, and will prompt the administrator
for
<br>> tapes. Last, there is client software which manages the back-up process
<br>> for
<br>> the client computer.
<br>>    I'm wondering how/why NBU was suggested for your
situation, as a
<br>> network
<br>> interruption would make it impossible for the Master Server to reach
the
<br>> remote web server with the command to restore data. Have you speken
with a
<br>> reseller about the particular details of your set-up?
<br>> -wde
<br>> --
<br>> Will Enestvedt
<br>> UNIX System Administrator
<br>> Johnson & Wales University
<br>> WEnestvedt at jwu.edu    (401) 598-1584
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<p>Message: 6
<br>From: "Sangbutsarakum, Patai" <patais at reach.com>
<br>To: "'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'" <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
<br>Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:19:11 +0700
<br>Subject: [SunHELP] fsck
<br>Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<p>Dear folks
<p>I've read about system administartor of Solaris.
<br>In the chapter that say about fsck. it said
<p>"Run the fsck utility in single-user mode or on unmounted file system
only.
<br>But you can't unmount the root and /usr file system"
<p>So, how can I do, can I do fsck on root,/usr file system ??
<p>Please suggest
<br>Patrick.
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<p>Message: 7
<br>Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:43:58 +1200
<br>From: Simon Annear <simon.annear at solnet.co.nz>
<br>Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Keyboard wackiness?
<br>To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<br>Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
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<p>Hi Ben/all
<p>One thing that hasn't been mentioned - but you can simply plug the keyboard
<br>back in, type go and your machine will be back at the same state as
when you
<br>unplugged it, ie running as usual (albeit with a big gap in any logs). 
This
<br>is kinda useful if you have a server running - you pull out the kb
expecting
<br>it to stay running and it goes to the OBP, you can simply plug the
kb back
<br>in, type go and most users will not notice anything but a short outage.
<p>Simon
<br>-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Hichael Morton <mh1272 at yahoo.com>
<br>To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>; Ben Ricker
<br><bricker at wellinx.com>
<br>Date: Friday, August 10, 2001 9:19 AM
<br>Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Keyboard wackiness?
<p>>Ben,
<br>>
<br>>Your E250 is designed to go to the ok prompt when the keyboard is
<br>>unplugged.  In certain situations that I have encountered, it
is a good
<br>>feature.
<br>>
<br>>When your E250 is at the ok prompt, it has finished its POST (Power
On
<br>>Self Test) and is waiting for instructions for maintenance or booting.
<br>>Open Boot Prompt (OBP) is another name for this state.  Single
User mode
<br>>is reached after the E250 boots.
<br>>
<br>>docs.sun.com should have online/downloadable manuals on the OBP/ok
<br>>prompt and Sun spends time in the hardware and sysadmin class on how
to
<br>>use the OBP.  It really is a nifty tool and can be used to customize
<br>>your E250 by creating aliases and the hardware level.
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>Hope this helps!
<br>>
<br>>Michael
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>Ben Ricker wrote:
<br>>>
<br>>> I had a weird problem. We house a Sun E250 at a CoLo site. I have
a Sun
<br>>> keyboard plugged into it. I mistook the Sun keyboard for another
<br>>> keyboard (which I used for Linux machines) and unplugged it. I thought
<br>>> nothing of it and plugged the Sun keyboard back in.
<br>>>
<br>>> Came back to my desk and the Sun was dead; no pings, nothing. Went
back
<br>>> to CoLo and the terminal showed the 'Ok' prompt (single-user mode?).
<br>>> What the heck happened there?
<br>>>
<br>>> Ben Ricker
<br>>> System Administrator
<br>>> Wellinx.com
<br>>>
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<p>Message: 8
<br>Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 20:31:57 -0400
<br>From: Hichael Morton <mh1272 at yahoo.com>
<br>To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org, jckennedy at agere.com
<br>Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Hard drive.
<br>Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<p>John,
<p>Sparc 10s use Fast SCSI hard drives (also called SCSI-2 by some). 
These
<br>drives use 50-pin connectors (2 rows x 25 pins).  All the Sun
SCSI
<br>connectors that I have ever seen use industray standard connectors.
<p>You may be thinking of the SBus connector that most SparcStations use
<br>for their system board connectors (like PCs use ISA, EISA, VLB, PBI
<br>connectors on their mother boards).  Even these SBus and other
Sun
<br>connectors are open for other vendors to manufacture SBus cards. 
(Sun
<br>also has used other connectors on various system boards but SBus seems
<br>to be the mainstay for Sparcstations.)
<p>Or you may be thinking of the fact that Sun was using Fast SCSI hard
<br>drives with the HD-50 connector while PCs were using the
<br>Centronics-style connector.
<p>Sun-branded hard drives are more expensive because, according to Sun,
<br>they spec and test their hard drive to higher standards and because,
<br>when under service contracts, they are warrantied for the life of the
<br>contract.
<p>I have used Sun hard drives in PCs with Adaptec controller and non-Sun
<br>hard drives in Sun machines without any problems.  The connectors
are
<br>plug-and-play so to speak.
<p>The current Sun Field Engineer shows only industry standard connectors
<br>on the hard drives used by Sun.
<p>Hope this helps!
<p>Michael
<p>John Kennedy wrote:
<br>>
<br>> I thought the Sparcstation 10 used SCSI with a "special" Sun connection
that
<br>> doubled the price of the drive....
<br>> John
<br>>
<br>> "Meng, Andrew" wrote:
<br>> >
<br>> > Hello,
<br>> >
<br>> > A Hard drive in a Sparcstation 10 seems to be damaged. I am wondring
if I
<br>> > can use a normal IDE disk for PC to replace it or I have to get
a sun
<br>> > specific hard disk? By the way, where I can find the floppy boot
image(sol
<br>> > 8) to boot the system and use some kind of software to repair the
damage
<br>> > disk?
<br>> >
<br>> > Thanks a lot!
<br>> > Andrew
<br>> >
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<p>Message: 9
<br>Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 21:40:43 -0400
<br>From: David Rouse <david at rouseworld.org>
<br>To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<br>Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Keyboard wackiness?
<br>Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<p>On Thursday, August 9, 2001, at 04:40  PM, Ben Ricker wrote:
<p>> I had a weird problem. We house a Sun E250 at a CoLo site. I have
a Sun
<br>> keyboard plugged into it. I mistook the Sun keyboard for another
<br>> keyboard (which I used for Linux machines) and unplugged it. I thought
<br>> nothing of it and plugged the Sun keyboard back in.
<p>Another option for 250s is to turn the power key to the locked position.
<br>That should also prevent changes to the eeprom settings (better check
<br>the manual on that one).
<p>--
<br>David Rouse
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<p>Message: 10
<br>Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 21:50:03 -0400
<br>From: David Rouse <david at rouseworld.org>
<br>To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<br>Subject: Re: [SunHELP] fsck
<br>Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<p>On Thursday, August 9, 2001, at 01:19  AM, Sangbutsarakum, Patai
wrote:
<p>> So, how can I do, can I do fsck on root,/usr file system ??
<br>>
<p> From 'man fsck'
<p>WARNINGS
<br>      The operating system buffers file system
data.  Running fsck
<br>      on  a  mounted  file
system can cause the operating system's
<br>      buffers to become out of date with respect
to the disk.  For
<br>      this  reason,  the file system
should be unmounted when fsck
<br>      is used. If this is not possible, care
should be taken  that
<br>      the  system is quiescent and that
it is rebooted immediately
<br>      after fsck  is run. Quite often,
however, this will  not  be
<br>      sufficient.   A  panic 
will probably occur if running  fsck
<br>      on a file system modifies the file system.
<p>So, just so it from single-user and then reboot.
<p>You could also, theoretically, boot from a Soalris install CD and use
<br>the CD's fsck.
<p>--
<br>David Rouse
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<p>Message: 11
<br>From: "Low, Adam" <ALow at Prioritytelecom.com>
<br>To: "'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'" <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
<br>Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:23:04 +0200
<br>Subject: [SunHELP] Using a PC keyboard/mouse with Ultra5/10's
<br>Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<p>Hi All,
<p>I've having some fun with VNC to share my Sun keyboard/mouse with my
W2K desktop but the Sun keyboard/mouse I have are very old and clunky.
Is anyone aware of a similar method (non-hardware) but allowing use of
a W2k keyboard/mouse to be shared on a Sun Solaris box, ideally over IP
?
<p>Cheers,
<br>Adam
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<p>Message: 12
<br>From: "Sangbutsarakum, Patai" <patais at reach.com>
<br>To: "'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'" <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
<br>Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:41:34 +0700
<br>Subject: [SunHELP] test
<br>Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
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<p>Message: 13
<br>From: Swamy_CNN at satyam-infoway.com
<br>To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<br>Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:06:24 +0530
<br>Subject: [SunHELP] restoring from dds3 tape
<br>Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<p>                                             
Placed At :
<p>Hi all,
<br>     I have dds3 tape in a dds3 tape drive. I'm
able to read the contents
<br>through "tar tvf ", but i'm not able to restore it to my hard disk.
Infact "tar
<br>xvf " is not extracting anything, Following is an o/p that i got..
<br># ls
<br># tar xvf /dev/rmt/0 /export/home
<br># ls
<p>thanks,
<br>swamy
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<p>Message: 14
<br>From: "Peter Stokes" <peter at ashlyn.co.uk>
<br>To: <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
<br>Subject: RE: [SunHELP] restoring from dds3 tape
<br>Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:54:24 +0100
<br>Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<p>Hi
<p>The command you are entering will extract everything on the tape in
<br>directory /export/home TO /export/home on your system, hence you will
not
<br>see anything in the local directory.
<p>If you want to restore relative to where you are, you need to save the
data
<br>on tape relative as well e.g. if you want to save /export/home, you
would
<p>cd /export/home
<br>tar cvf /dev/rmt0 .
<p>Then to restore to say /my/directory
<p>cd /my/directory
<br>tar xvf /dev/rmt0 .
<p>Peter
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<br>From: sunhelp-admin at sunhelp.org [<a href="mailto:sunhelp-admin at sunhelp.org">mailto:sunhelp-admin at sunhelp.org</a>]On
<br>Behalf Of Swamy_CNN at satyam-infoway.com
<br>Sent: 10 August 2001 09:36
<br>To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
<br>Subject: [SunHELP] restoring from dds3 tape
<p>                                             
Placed At :
<p>Hi all,
<br>     I have dds3 tape in a dds3 tape drive. I'm
able to read the contents
<br>through "tar tvf ", but i'm not able to restore it to my hard disk.
Infact
<br>"tar
<br>xvf " is not extracting anything, Following is an o/p that i got..
<br># ls
<br># tar xvf /dev/rmt/0 /export/home
<br># ls
<p>thanks,
<br>swamy
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<p>Message: 15
<br>From: "Steve Wingate" <steve at velosystems.net>
<br>To: <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
<br>Subject: Re: [SunHELP] KVM recommendations
<br>Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 02:00:13 -0700
<br>Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
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<p>KVM recommendationsFor what it's worth we've standardized on Avocent
=
<br>Autoview 400's for our colocation facilities. They each control a Compaq
=
<br>DL380, a Sun E450 and an Ultra 5. They support both USB and Sun without
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<br>external adapters.=20
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<br>  From: Adam Kropelin=20
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<br>  Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 12:46 PM
<br>  Subject: [SunHELP] KVM recommendations
<p>  The good news is that we now have enough Suns to justify needing
a KVM =
<br>switch for them. The bad news is, well, the same thing.
<p>  All I can seem to find are peecee KVMs which require $150-per-port
=
<br>protocol converters to work with Sun equipment. Can anyone recommend
a =
<br>reasonably-priced switch that needs no adapters? Or a source of cheaper
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<br>  <P><FONT size=3D2>The good news is that we now have enough
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