[Sunhelp] How many tape drives?

Steel, Nick - TPNWS NSteel at sempra.com
Wed Sep 1 13:56:27 CDT 1999


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Reposting to see if anyone new might have some ideas...
 
Thanks!
 
- Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: Steel, Nick - TPNWS [mailto:NSteel at sempra.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:21 PM
To: 'sunhelp at ohno.mrbill.net'
Subject: [Sunhelp] How many tape drives?



I'm working on putting together some Sun boxes that are going to act as
backup servers for our server farms. I've got my tape and slot capacity
numbers together, and now I'm looking at the type of box I'm going to need
to drive the tapes. 

We're currently deciding between using DLT7000 drives and the Storagetek
9840 drives, so I have sizing for both configurations. 

In the DLT7000 option, the specs call for 13 drives on a single backup
server. 

In the STK 9840 option, the specs call 10 drives on a single backup server. 

Here's where I need some input from the list: 

I understand that the rule of thumb is no more than 2 DLT7000 or 9840 drives
per SCSI channel, so I would need 7 SCSI channels for the DLT7000 option,
and 5 channels for the STK 9840 option. Does that sound about right?

Where I'm really stuck is sizing the number and speed of the CPU's in the
backup server. I've been told by our backup software vendor (Veritas) that
we should plan on 2 drives per CPU. However, I have been told by STK that we
can get away with driving 10 9840 drives with 4 400mhz processors. 

That's quite a wide range of server chassis we can look at. If we follow the
Veritas suggestions, we'd be looking at a 5 - 7 processor E4500. On the
other hand if we follow the STK suggestions, conceivably we could put the
backup server on a 4 processor E450. There's quite a wide price range
between the two. 

On one hand, I'd hate to go with an E4500 when its not nessisary, but I need
to be careful to avoid starting out with a box that is underpowered and has
to be flat out replaced. 

What has been everyone else's experience in terms of the number of drives
per CPU? 

Thanks! 

-- Nick Steel 
Infrastructure Technologist 
Distributed Server Infrastructure 
Sempra Energy 
V. 323-780-5042 
E. nsteel at sempra.com 


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<DIV><SPAN class=110450419-01091999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Reposting to see if anyone new might have some 
ideas...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=110450419-01091999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Thanks!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Nick</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Steel, Nick - TPNWS 
[mailto:NSteel at sempra.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:21 
PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'sunhelp at ohno.mrbill.net'<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Sunhelp] How many 
tape drives?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>I'm working on putting together some Sun boxes that are going to 
act as backup servers for our server farms. I've got my tape and slot capacity 
numbers together, and now I'm looking at the type of box I'm going to need to 
drive the tapes. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>We're currently deciding between using DLT7000 drives and the 
Storagetek 9840 drives, so I have sizing for both configurations. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>In the DLT7000 option, the specs call for 13 drives on a single 
backup server. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>In the STK 9840 option, the specs call 10 drives on a single 
backup server.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Here's where I need some input from the list:</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>I understand that the rule of thumb is no more than 2 DLT7000 or 
9840 drives per SCSI channel, so I would need 7 SCSI channels for the DLT7000 
option, and 5 channels for the STK 9840 option. Does that sound about 
right?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Where I'm really stuck is sizing the number and speed of the 
CPU's in the backup server. I've been told by our backup software vendor 
(Veritas) that we should plan on 2 drives per CPU. However, I have been told by 
STK that we can get away with driving 10 9840 drives with 4 400mhz processors. 
</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>That's quite a wide range of server chassis we can look at. If 
we follow the Veritas suggestions, we'd be looking at a 5 - 7 processor E4500. 
On the other hand if we follow the STK suggestions, conceivably we could put the 
backup server on a 4 processor E450. There's quite a wide price range between 
the two. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>On one hand, I'd hate to go with an E4500 when its not 
nessisary, but I need to be careful to avoid starting out with a box that is 
underpowered and has to be flat out replaced. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>What has been everyone else's experience in terms of the number 
of drives per CPU?</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Thanks!</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>-- Nick Steel</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Infrastructure 
Technologist</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Distributed Server Infrastructure</FONT> 
<BR><FONT size=2>Sempra Energy</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>V. 323-780-5042</FONT> 
<BR><FONT size=2>E. nsteel at sempra.com</FONT> </P></BODY></HTML>

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