[rescue] rescue Digest, Vol 130, Issue 2

Gary Sloane gksloane at hotmail.com
Mon Sep 2 12:32:37 CDT 2013 

Most SCSI disk drives have a jumper option for TERMPWR; when set, the drive
provides termination power to the bus.

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> Subject: rescue Digest, Vol 130, Issue 2
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> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 12:00:01 -0500
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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Re: Sun 3/60 SCSI (Jonathan Sturges)
>    2. Pittsburgh area: SunFire 6800s, V480 free for pickup
>       (Bill Bradford)
>    3. Re: Sun 3/60 SCSI issues (Kurt M. Nowak) (Michael Thompson)
>    4. Re: Sun 3/60 SCSI (Kurt M. Nowak)
>    5. Re: Sun 3/60 SCSI issues (Kurt M. Nowak) (Kurt M. Nowak)
>    6. More free hardware in Pittsburgh (Bill Bradford)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 17:39:02 -0400
> From: Jonathan Sturges <jonathansturges at yahoo.com>
> To: "rescue at sunhelp.org" <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun 3/60 SCSI
> Message-ID: <493DD25B-B903-4846-90EF-ACF3CF2E0771 at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> I hate to ask the obvious, but what device is supplying termpwr?  If the
> terminator isn't lighting up, I'm guessing the host HBA is not.  If the
3/60
> doesn't or can't provide termpwr, something else needs to be set to do it.
> Maybe jumper the device in the 411 to provide it?  This can be dangerous if
> you forget and hook it up to another SCSI bus later that already has
termpwr
> however.
>
> Good luck,
> Jonathan
>
> On Sep 1, 2013, at 1:00 PM, rescue-request at sunhelp.org wrote:
> > Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 23:48:02 -0700
> > From: "Kurt M. Nowak" <kurt.m.nowak at gmail.com>
> > To: Sun Rescue mail list <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> > Subject: [rescue] Sun 3/60 SCSI issues
> > Message-ID: <5222E322.70800 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a Sun 3/60 and I hooked up a terminated 411 box with a Sun D-50
> > to HD-50 cable and a Sun terminator. The LED on the terminator does not
> > come on when I power on the machine. I did some diagnostics using the
> > loopback connector mentioned in Sun3Arc.org and I get an error message
> > (see the end of the test output). The other tests (b,c,s and u) all are
> > ok...its the external loopback test that I have problems with. I know
> > its not the cable, because it works on another machine. Someone
> > mentioned that I might have a faulty fuse, but both of the two fuses on
> > the board are ok (checked continuity).
> > Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
> >
> > -Kurt
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 17:23:25 -0500
> From: Bill Bradford <mrbill at mrbill.net>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: [rescue] Pittsburgh area: SunFire 6800s, V480 free for pickup
> Message-ID: <20130901222325.GI3768 at mrbill.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> Contact mcguire at neurotica.com if interested, I'm just passing this
> along.
>
>   " I have two Sun Fire 6800s and at least one V480, possibly more, and
>     some related hardware, free for pickup in the Pittsburgh area.  I am
>     also willing to deliver if all costs are covered.  Either way, though,
>     they have to be gone soon."
>
> Bill
>
> --
> Bill Bradford
> Houston, Texas USA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 19:07:43 -0400
> From: Michael Thompson <michael.99.thompson at gmail.com>
> To: Sun Rescue <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun 3/60 SCSI issues (Kurt M. Nowak)
> Message-ID:
> 	<CAH1BU=8hDf84MN8CNMJ1ETa6+xos9tb7WNp7pfmwH8Ns+Mtd2w at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> > Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 23:48:02 -0700
> > From: "Kurt M. Nowak" <kurt.m.nowak at gmail.com>
> > To: Sun Rescue mail list <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> > Subject: [rescue] Sun 3/60 SCSI issues
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a Sun 3/60 and I hooked up a terminated 411 box with a Sun D-50
> > to HD-50 cable and a Sun terminator. The LED on the terminator does not
> > come on when I power on the machine. I did some diagnostics using the
> > loopback connector mentioned in Sun3Arc.org and I get an error message
> > (see the end of the test output). The other tests (b,c,s and u) all are
> > ok...its the external loopback test that I have problems with. I know
> > its not the cable, because it works on another machine. Someone
> > mentioned that I might have a faulty fuse, but both of the two fuses on
> > the board are ok (checked continuity).
> > Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
> >
> > -Kurt
> >
> > Cmd=>
> >
> > SCSI Loopback Error: all signals shld be off(high) exp 0, obs 80
> > SCSI Loopback Error: Signals:ACK,BSY,SEL,ATN,REQ,MSG,C/D,I/O: exp F0, obs
> > 90
> > SCSI Loopback Error: Signals:ACK,BSY,SEL,ATN,REQ,MSG,C/D,I/O: exp F, obs
C2
> > Test failed during pass 1.  Total errors = 1.
> >
> > SCSI Interface Tests:  (Enter 'q' to return to Test Menu)
> >
>
> You could make sure that your SCSI cable connects the terminator power from
> the D-50 to the HD-50. Some don't.
>
>
> --
> Michael Thompson
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2013 19:39:14 -0700
> From: "Kurt M. Nowak" <kurt.m.nowak at gmail.com>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun 3/60 SCSI
> Message-ID: <5223FA52.1070609 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On 9/1/2013 2:39 PM, Jonathan Sturges wrote:
> > I hate to ask the obvious, but what device is supplying termpwr?  If the
> > terminator isn't lighting up, I'm guessing the host HBA is not.  If the
3/60
> > doesn't or can't provide termpwr, something else needs to be set to do
it.
> > Maybe jumper the device in the 411 to provide it?  This can be dangerous
if
> > you forget and hook it up to another SCSI bus later that already has
termpwr
> > however.
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Jonathan
> >
> > On Sep 1, 2013, at 1:00 PM, rescue-request at sunhelp.org wrote:
> >> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 23:48:02 -0700
> >> From: "Kurt M. Nowak" <kurt.m.nowak at gmail.com>
> >> To: Sun Rescue mail list <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> >> Subject: [rescue] Sun 3/60 SCSI issues
> >> Message-ID: <5222E322.70800 at gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I have a Sun 3/60 and I hooked up a terminated 411 box with a Sun D-50
> >> to HD-50 cable and a Sun terminator. The LED on the terminator does not
> >> come on when I power on the machine. I did some diagnostics using the
> >> loopback connector mentioned in Sun3Arc.org and I get an error message
> >> (see the end of the test output). The other tests (b,c,s and u) all are
> >> ok...its the external loopback test that I have problems with. I know
> >> its not the cable, because it works on another machine. Someone
> >> mentioned that I might have a faulty fuse, but both of the two fuses on
> >> the board are ok (checked continuity).
> >> Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
> >>
> >> -Kurt
> > _______________________________________________
> > rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue
> Jonathan,
>
> I believe the 3/60 is supplying termpwr. I have a spare 3/60 mobo (with
> other problems) which when i swap it out, the term LED on the 411 comes
> on. This is without plugging the external 411 on, so this shows the 3/60
> is supplying the power. I'm studying the 3/60 schematic on bitsavers and
> may have some ideas. Thanks.
>
> -Kurt
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2013 19:42:57 -0700
> From: "Kurt M. Nowak" <kurt.m.nowak at gmail.com>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun 3/60 SCSI issues (Kurt M. Nowak)
> Message-ID: <5223FB31.9030103 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 9/1/2013 4:07 PM, Michael Thompson wrote:
> >> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 23:48:02 -0700
> >> From: "Kurt M. Nowak" <kurt.m.nowak at gmail.com>
> >> To: Sun Rescue mail list <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> >> Subject: [rescue] Sun 3/60 SCSI issues
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I have a Sun 3/60 and I hooked up a terminated 411 box with a Sun D-50
> >> to HD-50 cable and a Sun terminator. The LED on the terminator does not
> >> come on when I power on the machine. I did some diagnostics using the
> >> loopback connector mentioned in Sun3Arc.org and I get an error message
> >> (see the end of the test output). The other tests (b,c,s and u) all are
> >> ok...its the external loopback test that I have problems with. I know
> >> its not the cable, because it works on another machine. Someone
> >> mentioned that I might have a faulty fuse, but both of the two fuses on
> >> the board are ok (checked continuity).
> >> Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
> >>
> >> -Kurt
> >>
> >> Cmd=>
> >>
> >> SCSI Loopback Error: all signals shld be off(high) exp 0, obs 80
> >> SCSI Loopback Error: Signals:ACK,BSY,SEL,ATN,REQ,MSG,C/D,I/O: exp F0,
obs
> >> 90
> >> SCSI Loopback Error: Signals:ACK,BSY,SEL,ATN,REQ,MSG,C/D,I/O: exp F, obs
C2
> >> Test failed during pass 1.  Total errors = 1.
> >>
> >> SCSI Interface Tests:  (Enter 'q' to return to Test Menu)
> >>
> > You could make sure that your SCSI cable connects the terminator power
from
> > the D-50 to the HD-50. Some don't.
> >
> >
> Michael,
>
> I thought that too, early on but I pretty much ruled that out now...The
> cable delivers term power to the 411/term when i use my spare 3/60 mobo.
> Thanks.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 11:27:13 -0500
> From: Bill Bradford <mrbill at mrbill.net>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: [rescue] More free hardware in Pittsburgh
> Message-ID: <20130902162712.GL3768 at mrbill.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> Contact mcguire at neurotica.com, I'm just passing this along.
>
> "I have three large racks available for pickup in the Pittsburgh area.
>
>    These are unusual racks.  They used to house disk arrays, but no
> longer.  They are standard 19" racks internally, but they have "bays" on
> one side to accommodate disk canisters.  These bays are empty, and they
> make the rack about 9-10" wider.  The bays may be able to be removed, I
> haven't looked into it.  But with or without them, these are very nice,
> VERY solid, black six-foot 19" racks with excellent casters.
>
>    This is important; these need to be gone soon; I hope someone can take
> them.  I need to make room for a special arrival in a few weeks.
>
>                -Dave"
>
> --
> Bill Bradford
> Houston, Texas USA
>
>
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>
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