[rescue] rescue Digest, Vol 83, Issue 14
Chris Brandstetter
sirloxelroy at gmail.com
Fri Oct 16 20:09:07 CDT 2009
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:01:34 -0400
> From: Phil Stracchino <alaric at metrocast.net>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] rescue Digest, Vol 83, Issue 9
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> Chris Brandstetter wrote:
> >> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:42:45 +0100
> >> From: Peter Corlett <abuse at cabal.org.uk>
> >> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [rescue] Wanted: Old Sun Hardware
> >> Message-ID: <E3AC44CC-1636-49CC-AA51-A9375B553B33 at cabal.org.uk>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
> >>
> >> On 14 Oct 2009, at 10:46, Lionel Peterson wrote:
> >>> I think 'Old' has gone through several definitions - first anything
> >>> 680x0-based, then anything Sun4(all flavors) or earlier, then
> >>> anytimg that wouldn't run 64-bit Solaris. Soon (I fear) it will mean
> >>> anything not x64-based.
> >> Ha. I have in front of me a slightly battered x64 Ultra 20, acquired
> >> cheaply because the previous owner evidently decided it was too old.
> > I have 2 of those I consider my "Current" workstations. Nothing wrong
> > with them and will have them for a couple years to come. Got mine off
> > of eBay when a guy was unloading a few w/ no hdds.
>
> I wouldn't mind a couple of Ultra20s or newer myself, if budget
> permitted. It'd be nice to be able to replace one or two machines
> around here, particularly the Windows boxen, with actual
> current-generation gear instead of third-time-around hand-me-downs.
>
> --
> Phil Stracchino, CDK#2 DoD#299792458 ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355
> alaric at caerllewys.net alaric at metrocast.net phil at co.ordinate.org
> Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater
> It's not the years, it's the mileage.
>
I Picked mine up for $50.00 when cables-and-peripherals was selling them
on ebay.
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:18:48 -0400
> From: Phil Stracchino <alaric at metrocast.net>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] rescue Digest, Vol 83, Issue 9
> Message-ID: <4AD864A8.3070308 at metrocast.net>
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> Phil Stracchino wrote:
> > I wouldn't mind a couple of Ultra20s or newer myself, if budget
> > permitted. It'd be nice to be able to replace one or two machines
> > around here, particularly the Windows boxen, with actual
> > current-generation gear instead of third-time-around hand-me-downs.
>
> Which probably sounds heretical, on further thought, until I explain my
> intent of replacing babylon5 with, say, an Ultra24 or Ultra45 and
> retasking the current babylon5 for Windows...
>
> Not that, even if I had that kinda cash on hand, I could spare it for
> machine upgrades right now.
>
>
> --
> Phil Stracchino, CDK#2 DoD#299792458 ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355
> alaric at caerllewys.net alaric at metrocast.net phil at co.ordinate.org
> Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater
> It's not the years, it's the mileage.
>
>
SHWEET I am not the only person with a Babylon5 naming scheme. :-)
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:59:28 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Ethan O'Toole <ethan at 757tech.net>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: [rescue] Source for ID proms, PCMCIA drive in Voyager?
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0910161158110.3890 at mh5.757tech.net>
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> Two quick questions...
>
> Any thoughts on current sources for replacement idproms for Suns?
>
> And will a PCMCIA hard drive work in a Sun Voyager? A friend has a 500 meg
> pcmcia drive and I was thinking.... (Of course 16GB SD card in PCMCIA
> adaptor would be wild). I assume the answer is no but you never know!
>
>
>
> --
> .-[ Ethan O'Toole ]--------+ - - - - - - - - - +----.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:31:57 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Source for ID proms, PCMCIA drive in Voyager?
> Message-ID:
> <alpine.DEB.1.10.0910160924270.4963 at sleipnir.cs.csubak.edu>
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> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Ethan O'Toole wrote:
>
> > Two quick questions...
> >
> > Any thoughts on current sources for replacement idproms for Suns?
>
> I've generally thought of this as somewhat moot. Whenever I have this
> problem, I saw open the battery chamber, extract the old battery, and
> epoxy a button cell holder to the top. I don't know what happened to the
> battery replacement page at http://www.bhargavaz.net/nvram/, but it looks
> like someone saved a .doc version of it at
> http://www.leetupload.com/database/Misc/Papers/MANUALS/SUN/DPROM.doc.
> There you can see a picture of what I did with my IPX's idprom. The fix
> works perfectly and nothing is rattling around the motherboard.
>
>
> --
> David Griffith
> dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
>
> A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:31:09 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Ethan O'Toole <ethan at 757tech.net>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Source for ID proms, PCMCIA drive in Voyager?
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0910161330110.3890 at mh5.757tech.net>
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> > I've generally thought of this as somewhat moot. Whenever I have this
> > problem, I saw open the battery chamber, extract the old battery, and epoxy a
> > button cell holder to the top. I don't know what happened to the battery
> > replacement page at http://www.bhargavaz.net/nvram/, but it looks like
> > someone saved a .doc version of it at
>
> I found that solution as well. I'm going to do it to every one I find.
>
> > http://www.leetupload.com/database/Misc/Papers/MANUALS/SUN/DPROM.doc. There
> > you can see a picture of what I did with my IPX's idprom. The fix works
> > perfectly and nothing is rattling around the motherboard.
>
> Perfect. That's what I'm going to attempt.
>
>
> --
> .-[ Ethan O'Toole ]--------+ - - - - - - - - - +----.
> : FLICKR http://www.flickr.com/photos/ethanotoole :
> : HOMEPAGE " users.757.org/~ethan .
> `----------+ - - - - - - - - - +-----------=======--'
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>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:38:47 -0400 (EDT)
> From: adh at an.bradford.ma.us (Sandwich Maker)
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Source for ID proms, PCMCIA drive in Voyager?
> Message-ID: <200910161738.n9GHclN04959 at an.bradford.ma.us>
>
> " I don't know what happened to the battery replacement page at
> " http://www.bhargavaz.net/nvram/
>
> maybe mrbill could use the wayback machine and snaffle the pg to add
> to sunhelp...?
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Andrew Hay the genius nature
> internet rambler is to see what all have seen
> adh at an.bradford.ma.us and think what none thought
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:33:11 -0400
> From: Dave Fischer <dave at cca.org>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Source for ID proms, PCMCIA drive in Voyager?
> Message-ID: <E1Myrbz-000046-00 at cca.org>
>
> ethan at 757tech.net writes:
>
> >And will a PCMCIA hard drive work in a Sun Voyager? A friend has a 500 meg
> >pcmcia drive and I was thinking.... (Of course 16GB SD card in PCMCIA
> >adaptor would be wild). I assume the answer is no but you never know!
>
> I never tried when I had my Voyager running, but I've had no
> problem mounting CF cards in a PCMCIA adaptor in a sbus/pcmcia
> card under Solaris 8. The documentation says there's a very low
> limit (64 meg?) but I've been using a 512meg card. (I use it to
> transfer photos from my camera.)
>
> Speed is not very good though. (500 k/s?)
>
> ------ David Fischer ------- dave at cca.org ------- http://www.cca.org ------
> ----------------- Young-goon! The vending machine says hi! ----------------
>
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:41:28 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Source for ID proms, PCMCIA drive in Voyager?
> Message-ID:
> <alpine.DEB.1.10.0910161140260.4963 at sleipnir.cs.csubak.edu>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Ethan O'Toole wrote:
>
> >> I've generally thought of this as somewhat moot. Whenever I have this
> >> problem, I saw open the battery chamber, extract the old battery, and epoxy
> >> a button cell holder to the top. I don't know what happened to the battery
> >> replacement page at http://www.bhargavaz.net/nvram/, but it looks like
> >> someone saved a .doc version of it at
> >
> > I found that solution as well. I'm going to do it to every one I find.
> >
> >> http://www.leetupload.com/database/Misc/Papers/MANUALS/SUN/DPROM.doc. There
> >> you can see a picture of what I did with my IPX's idprom. The fix works
> >> perfectly and nothing is rattling around the motherboard.
> >
> > Perfect. That's what I'm going to attempt.
>
> Here's the source page for that .doc:
> http://www.belgers.com/gigawa.lt/Sun_NVRAM.html. Somehow I thought my
> IPX's pic was at bhargavaz.net.
>
> --
> David Griffith
> dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
>
> A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
>
>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:10:02 -0400
> From: Steve Sandau <ssandau at gwi.net>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Source for ID proms, PCMCIA drive in Voyager?
> Message-ID: <4AD8C50A.9090006 at gwi.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> > " I don't know what happened to the battery replacement page at
> > " http://www.bhargavaz.net/nvram/
> >
> > maybe mrbill could use the wayback machine and snaffle the pg to add
> > to sunhelp...?
>
> I have used the information here:
>
> http://www.squirrel.com/sun-nvram-hostid.faq.html
>
> several times in replacing batteries and reconfiguring the NVRAM with
> necessary info. There is a section on battery replacement, but it
> doesn't have pictures like some of the other resources I have seen.
>
> Steve
>
>
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>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:03:31 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Carl R. Friend" <crfriend at rcn.com>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] SS IPC for a casket?
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0910161702230.6776 at zephyr.cacm.org>
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> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, John Francini wrote:
>
> > For me it would have to be a DECsystem-10, KI-10 model.
>
> Hopefully you wouldn't be sacrificing a working or restorable
> individual for that. Those were the ultimate -10s that DEC made.
>
> Cheers!
>
> +------------------------------------------------+---------------------+
> | Carl Richard Friend (UNIX Sysadmin) | West Boylston |
> | Minicomputer Collector / Enthusiast | Massachusetts, USA |
> | mailto:crfriend at rcn.com +---------------------+
> | http://users.rcn.com/crfriend/museum | ICBM: 42:22N 71:47W |
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