[rescue] Wanted: M0001 keyboard and boot disks
Mathias Rios
mars478 at gmail.com
Wed Oct 14 19:12:43 CDT 2009
Hey,
I'm looking for original 400k floppy discs to boot my 512k. I also
need a keyboard with the rj-11 connector. Preferably with the
connector cable.
Thanks!
-Mars478
Sent from my iPhone
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> 1. UPS battery source? [was Re: Any recommendations on
> rack-mount UPS?] (Scott Newell)
> 2. Re: UPS battery source? [was Re: Any recommendations on
> rack-mount UPS?] (Dan Sikorski)
> 3. U20 motherboard upgrade ?- WAS: Wanted: Old Sun Hardware (Jerry
> K)
> 4. Re: Wanted: Old Sun Hardware (Patrick Giagnocavo)
> 5. Solaris on ARM: WAS: Wanted: Old Sun Hardware (Jerry K)
> 6. Re: Wanted: Old Sun Hardware (Charles Monett)
> 7. Re: UPS battery source? [was Re: Any recommendations on
> rack-mount UPS?] (Patrick Finnegan)
> 8. Re: Wanted: Old Sun Hardware (nate at portents.com)
> 9. Re: Wanted: Old Sun Hardware (Steve Sandau)
> 10. Re: Wanted: Old Sun Hardware (Dave Fischer)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:00:33 -0500
> From: Scott Newell <newell at cei.net>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: [rescue] UPS battery source? [was Re: Any recommendations on
> rack-mount UPS?]
> Message-ID: <Version.32.20091014125746.02592f10 at mail.weightechinc.com>
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> All this talk of UPS and batteries reminds me that I need some new
> ones for
> my Powerware 9125. I think it uses 4 x 12V 9AH. Anyone know of a
> good and
> inexpensive source in the US?
>
> thanks!
>
> --
> newell N5TNL
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:18:38 -0400
> From: Dan Sikorski <me at dansikorski.com>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] UPS battery source? [was Re: Any recommendations
> on rack-mount UPS?]
> Message-ID: <4AD615FE.4050602 at dansikorski.com>
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> Scott Newell wrote:
>> All this talk of UPS and batteries reminds me that I need some new
>> ones for
>> my Powerware 9125. I think it uses 4 x 12V 9AH. Anyone know of a
>> good and
>> inexpensive source in the US?
>>
>
> It may not work for you, but you might want to look into setting up a
> business account with Batteries Plus. Their normal retail prices for
> these batteries are high, but having a business account with them
> offers
> substantial discounts. We buy all of our standard sized replacement
> batteries from them. The werker ones that i buy for my APCs and
> Lieberts are a common size that they keep tons of in stock. After the
> recent conversations, I checked it out and found out that they are AGM
> SLA's.
>
> -Dan Sikorski
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:04:57 -0500
> From: Jerry K <sun.mail.list47 at oryx.cc>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: [rescue] U20 motherboard upgrade ?- WAS: Wanted: Old Sun
> Hardware
> Message-ID: <4AD620D9.90501 at oryx.cc>
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>
> I have a (probably similar) Sun Ultra 20 M2 system. I have also
> noticed
> that several other list members have mentioned in passing that they
> also
> own similar units.
>
> As these are x86 systems, I am curious if anyone has performed a
> motherboard/CPU upgrade on an Ultra 20? Are there any oddities or
> particular strange parts in an Ultra 20, vs any other generic x86
> based
> system that would preclude an upgrade?
>
> I hope that this is a completely stupid/obvious question, but this
> is my
> first/only x86 system that I have had in over a decade.
>
> TIA for any replies,
>
> Jerry
>
>
> Peter Corlett wrote:
>> On 14 Oct 2009, at 10:46, Lionel Peterson wrote:
>>> I think 'Old' has gone through several definitions - first anything
>>> 680x0-based, then anything Sun4(all flavors) or earlier, then
>>> anytimg
>>> that wouldn't run 64-bit Solaris. Soon (I fear) it will mean
>>> anything
>>> not x64-based.
>>
>> Ha. I have in front of me a slightly battered x64 Ultra 20, acquired
>> cheaply because the previous owner evidently decided it was too old.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:29:03 -0400
> From: Patrick Giagnocavo <patrick at zill.net>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Wanted: Old Sun Hardware
> Message-ID: <4AD6267F.50302 at zill.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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> Joshua Boyd wrote:
>>> How about "if the system's CPU doesn't have out of order execution
>>> it is
>>> old" .
>>>
>>> Maybe that is a better way to classify things.
>>
>> Wouldn't that mean that Atoms and ARMs are old?
>
> OK to clarify:
> 1. I was only talking about Sun systems, which have never shipped Atom
> or ARM-based units.
>
> 2. I was unaware that OOE is not found on even newer CPUs; I thought
> that USIII and anything later had OOE. My mistake (as I said in an
> earlier post on this thread).
>
> I think there is a distinction that would not have to be stated when
> we
> are talking about workstation and high-end server systems vs. embedded
> CPUs designed for power efficiency....
>
> --Patrick
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:51:04 -0500
> From: Jerry K <sun.mail.list47 at oryx.cc>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: [rescue] Solaris on ARM: WAS: Wanted: Old Sun Hardware
> Message-ID: <4AD62BA8.3020900 at oryx.cc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Patrick,
>
> See email reference at bottom of message.
>
> This email was posted on the Sun ZFS mailing list on 19 June 2009, by
> Eric.Trimble at Sun.COM, referencing a port of Solaris to ARM.
>
> Please email me off list if you would like for me to forward you the
> actual message, with message headers.
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
> Patrick Giagnocavo wrote:
>> Joshua Boyd wrote:
>>>> How about "if the system's CPU doesn't have out of order
>>>> execution it is
>>>> old" .
>>>>
>>>> Maybe that is a better way to classify things.
>>> Wouldn't that mean that Atoms and ARMs are old?
>>
>> OK to clarify:
>> 1. I was only talking about Sun systems, which have never shipped
>> Atom
>> or ARM-based units.
>>
>> 2. I was unaware that OOE is not found on even newer CPUs; I thought
>> that USIII and anything later had OOE. My mistake (as I said in an
>> earlier post on this thread).
>>
>> I think there is a distinction that would not have to be stated
>> when we
>> are talking about workstation and high-end server systems vs.
>> embedded
>> CPUs designed for power efficiency....
>>
>> --Patrick
>> _______________________________________________
>> rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue
>
> ==========================================================
>
> Erik Trimble wrote:
>> Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:
>>> Are they feasible targets for zfs?
>>>
>>> The N610N that I have (BCM3302, 300MHz, 64MB) isn't even powerful
>>> enough to saturate either the gigabit wired or 802.11n wireless. It
>>> only goes about 25Mbps.
>>>
>>> Last time I test on EEPC 2G's Celeron, zfs is slow to the point of
>>> unusable. Will it be usable enough on most ARMs?
>>>
>>>
>> Well, given that ARM processors use a completely different ISA (ie.
> they're not x86-compatible), OpenSolaris won't run on them currently.
>>
>> If you'd like to do the port....
>>
>> <wink>
>>
>> I can't say as to the entire Atom line of stuff, but I've found the
> Atoms are OK for desktop use, and not anywhere powerful enough for
> even
> a basic NAS server. The demands of wire-speed Gigabit, ZFS, and
> encryption/compression are hard on the little Atom guys. Plus, it
> seems
> to be hard to find an Atom motherboard which supports more than 2GB of
> RAM, which is a serious problem.
>>
>
> Open mouth, insert foot.
>
> The ARM port is now functional (and available). I would assume
> (though I
> can't verify) that ZFS support is part of the port.
>
> There are a wide variety of ARM chips, in all sorts of stuff. Given
> the
> performance characteristics of some of the stuff I've been playing
> with
> over the last decade (and a pre-look at an ARM-based netbook), I'd
> have
> to say that any currently-available single-chip ARM-based system isn't
> going to be good to run OpenSolaris/ZFS on.
>
> That said, I can certainly see some really, really good uses for
> ARM-based microcontrollers as the guts of an HBA. They're likely
> good
> enough to do something like a tiny computer-on-a-board setup. Think
> something like a Sun 7110-style system shrunk down to a PCI-E
> controller
> - you have a simple host-based control program, hook a disk (or
> storage
> system) to the ARM HBA, and you could have a nice little embedded ZFS
> system.
>
> Either that, or if someone would figure out a way to have multiple-
> chip
> ARM implementations (where they could spread out the load
> efficiently).
>
> --
> Erik Trimble
> Java System Support
> Mailstop: usca22-123
> Phone: x17195
> Santa Clara, CA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:22:30 -0400
> From: Charles Monett <camonett at woh.rr.com>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Wanted: Old Sun Hardware
> Message-ID: <4AD63306.6000102 at woh.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Richard wrote:
>> I thought when it came to Sun hardware "old" was an adjective
>> reserved
>> for 680x0 Suns.
>>
> What usually determines my in-use or collector's status for older
> platforms is Ethernet capability (if the platform does it).
>
> Onboard or expandable(read: with commonly available boards) to 10/100
> speed Ethernet usually gives a machine a spot as
> an in-use platform, otherwise it's in storage.
>
> Newer platforms that can run gigabit inexpensively (and properly) are
> in-use by default. Rare as they may be, they do exist.
>
>
> While it's not a perfect rule, it does work for the greater part of
> the
> time to cut down on unused clutter.
>
> (If you want to nitpick on Ethernet standards, fine. This is just a
> general way I evaluate older platforms.)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:33:42 -0400
> From: Patrick Finnegan <pat at computer-refuge.org>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] UPS battery source? [was Re: Any recommendations
> on rack-mount UPS?]
> Message-ID: <200910141633.42903.pat at computer-refuge.org>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Wednesday 14 October 2009, Scott Newell wrote:
>> All this talk of UPS and batteries reminds me that I need some new
>> ones for my Powerware 9125. I think it uses 4 x 12V 9AH. Anyone
>> know of a good and inexpensive source in the US?
>
> I usually get my batteries from Portable Power Systems. They have a
> good variety, both in battery type and quality/cost, depending on what
> you want to spend. Plus, they have an easy to remember URL:
>
> http://gotbatteries.com
>
> Pat
> --
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> The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:53:59 -0400 (EDT)
> From: nate at portents.com
> To: "The Rescue List" <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Wanted: Old Sun Hardware
> Message-ID:
> <50564.64.206.23.116.1255553639.squirrel at webmail4.pair.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
>> OK to clarify:
>> 1. I was only talking about Sun systems, which have never shipped
>> Atom
>> or ARM-based units.
>
> I figured that, but in-order vs. out-of-order is a very arbitrary
> way to
> rank processors, which was my point, though that arbitrariness almost
> works for just Sun hardware...
>
>> I think there is a distinction that would not have to be stated
>> when we
>> are talking about workstation and high-end server systems vs.
>> embedded
>> CPUs designed for power efficiency....
>
> Eh, it's not that simple. Sure, you might argue that the processors
> in
> the XBox 360 and Playstation 3 are 'embedded' and therefore the fact
> that
> they're in-order doesn't matter, and maybe you'll say it doesn't
> matter
> that Itanium is in-order because it's VLIW and not CISC/RISC, but what
> about IBM POWER6?
>
> I realize it was a big deal when IBM introduced out-of-order
> execution to
> the PowerPC 601 in 1993, followed by the SPARC64 and Pentium Pro in
> 1995
> (though UltraSPARC was an in-order CPU also introduced in 1995).
> I'm not
> sure how much it says about a CPU anymore whether it's execution is
> in-order or out-of-order, other than it's an aspect of a given
> instance of
> an architecture at a particular time.
>
> - Nate
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:35:27 -0400
> From: Steve Sandau <ssandau at gwi.net>
> To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Wanted: Old Sun Hardware
> Message-ID: <4AD6522F.7070708 at gwi.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> der Mouse wrote:
>>> I really like sbus, so I'm going to have to be dragged kicking and
>>> screaming past 1999.
>>
>> You and me both; you'll have company....
>
> Indeed. My favorite box at work is our "workgroup" server, an E3000.
> It's just a really nice, expandable, dependable box. It holds enough
> drives that it doesn't need external storage. And besides that, it's
> just a handsome machine. And at home, most of the testing I do is on
> U2s
> and U1s. They just keep on running. (And heating the house...)
>
> Steve
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:04:33 -0400
> From: Dave Fischer <dave at cca.org>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Wanted: Old Sun Hardware
> Message-ID: <E1MyDpZ-00013y-00 at cca.org>
>
> ssandau at gwi.net writes:
>
>> Indeed. My favorite box at work is our "workgroup" server, an E3000.
>> It's just a really nice, expandable, dependable box. It holds enough
>> drives that it doesn't need external storage. And besides that, it's
>> just a handsome machine. And at home, most of the testing I do is
>> on U2s
>> and U1s. They just keep on running. (And heating the house...)
>
> Lovely machines. I have two E3500's and four E4000's at home.
>
> Seperating the cpu/mem from the io boards, compared to the Sun4d
> style,
> makes them so nicely configurable.
>
> ------ David Fischer ------- dave at cca.org ------- http://www.cca.org
> ------
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