Just to clarify: The 3/80 IS a pizza box, using the same case etc as the SS1 - it has room for 2 internal 3.5" SCSI drives, & a floppy. There are 16 30-pin SIMM slots, & I was under the impression that at least some versions of the PROM allowed the use of 4mb SIMMS. ( I also have a 13RW3 to VGA cable which works a treat...) Cheers mike