[rescue] E10k systems coming down in price
Curtis H. Wilbar Jr.
rescue at hawkmountain.net
Fri Jul 18 22:58:38 CDT 2003
>From: "Devin L. Ganger" <devin at thecabal.org>
>
>On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 09:42:46AM -0700, Skeezics Boondoggle wrote:
>
>> Those are the things that differentiate Solaris, along with other features
>> in the kernel that allow for massive scalability. Sun abandoned the
>> "uniprocessor mode" vs. "multiprocessor mode" thing quite some time ago,
>> so the Linux guys like to beat up on the fact that on single-user or even
>> 1-4 way small SMPs that Linux is faster - and in some tests it certainly
>> may be (context switch times, faster fork(), etc.) However, get beyond
>> 12-16 CPUs and it falls over, while Solaris is just starting to hit its
>> stride. It just doesn't make sense to cram all those high-end features
>> into the typical Linux distribution, but I expect that in time there will
>> be a Linux optimized for larger systems.
>
>This is the conventional wisdom, but the recent kernel series is doing a
>*lot* to improve the high-end scaling of Linux. Linux Journal had an
>extremely interesting article a few months back about some of the work that
>SGI is doing with Linux on a 64-processor system and the amount of work
>they were able to get out of it on real-world problems -- the equivalent
>of 59 of the 64 processors. Ain't bad at all.
I think I read that article....
>
>Almost all of the code was going back to the kernel group, too.
I hope so... if they didn't they would aggravate all the Linux religous
zealots ! :-)
>
>With both SGI and IBM working on Linux for their high-end hardware, it
>won't be long at all before it can handle big iron decently.
SGI and IBM big iron.... although I suppose some changes will help out
other big iron that other people port Linux to...
>
>It would be nice to see Sun taking some notice of this and looking for
>what innovations they can apply. No product is so good that it can't
>find room for improvement, and the Solaris kernel is so heavily
>optimized for the high-end machines at this date...
Isn't this preciesly the direction Linux is going (slowly being
"optimized" (at least modified) for big iron) ?
>
-- Curt
Curtis Wilbar
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