http://www.hamiltonbook.com If anyone is interested, Hamiltonbooks has the O'Reilly MySQL & mSQL book as a remainder for $5.95. Mine came in today (along with an IA-64 book, a 68k book, and some DSP books), and it looks great. I don't mean to be pimpin' for 'em, but they've never done me wrong when it comes to cheap books. newell