[rescue] Netra 1100/1400 => 1105/1405?
Stuart E. Johnson
rescue at sunhelp.org
Wed Aug 22 17:48:07 CDT 2001
Our local recycler in Mpls/St. Paul is starting to see the 48V telco Netra
1100 and 1400 models showing up in their scrap line. Since the 1400 is
essentially a rackmount Ultra 60 I find I lust for one. I just don't care
for the 48V part. Can the power module be replaced by the one from the AC
version (1105/1405) of these machines? Does anyone know of an inexpensive
aftermarket source for one? Sun wants $1400+ for them... :^(
Guess Lucent's closing a few warehouses and scrapping a lot of stuff.
--
-Stuart Johnson
sej at gofast.net
(looking for a good deal on 4 DieHard 12V batteries)
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> 4. Re: hrm. (Brian Hechinger)
> 5. Re: sbus ethernet (Dave McGuire)
> 6. Re: sbus ethernet (Dan Debertin)
> 7. Re: sbus ethernet (Dan Debertin)
> 8. Re: hrm. (joshua d boyd)
> 9. Re: hrm. (Dave McGuire)
> 10. Re: hrm. (Al Potter)
> 11. Re: hrm. (joshua d boyd)
> 12. Re: hrm. (joshua d boyd)
> 13. Re: hrm. (Zach Malone)
> 14. Re: hrm. (Michael S. Schiller)
> 15. Re: sbus ethernet (Dave McGuire)
> 16. Re: hrm. (Dave McGuire)
> 17. Re: hrm. (joshua d boyd)
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> Message: 1
> From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:50:05 -0400 (EDT)
> To: Dan Debertin <airboss at nodewarrior.org>
> Cc: <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] sbus ethernet
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
> On August 22, Dan Debertin wrote:
> > Differential SCSI, Buffered Ethernet. Standard ESP SCSI chipset, AMD
LANCE
> > ethernet. The point I was trying to make is that it's very possible that
> > all of the combined SCSI/ethernet cards have problems under NetBSD,
since
> > the chipsets are the same.
>
> I have *only* used the combo boards...mostly FSBE/S boards, lots of
> them...they work fine under NetBSD, and have for years. Well, all of
> them except yours. ;)
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire
> Laurel, MD
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:53:51 -0400
> From: joshua d boyd <jdboyd at cs.millersville.edu>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] sbus ethernet
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 03:48:00PM -0500, Dan Debertin wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Dave McGuire wrote:
> >
> > > I've used may FSBE/DSBE cards in a few Classics. I suspect you
> > > might have had a toasted board.
> >
> > Hmmm ... odd. The very same card has been running fine under SunOS 5.5.1
> > for months. Only my NetBSD hated it.
>
> Which NetBSD did you try? It is possible that it is fairly newly
> supported only under 1.5...
>
> --
> Joshua D. Boyd
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:58:23 -0400
> From: Brian Hechinger <wonko at arkham.ws>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] sbus ethernet
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
> > Which NetBSD did you try? It is possible that it is fairly newly
> > supported only under 1.5...
>
> it's LANCE ethernet, it's been supported for years.
>
> dan, are you using a GENERIC kernel? or one you built yourself?
>
> -brian
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:02:44 -0400
> From: Brian Hechinger <wonko at arkham.ws>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] hrm.
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 04:13:25PM -0400, James Sharp wrote:
> >
> > As far as I know, yes. I haven't been able to stalk her much lately
> > since i moved offices. heh.
>
> ok, that closes the deal then. dave, clear out a spot in the warehouse,
i'm
> gonna need somewhere to put my stuff until i find a place to live. i'll
be
> down in a day or two. :)
>
> -brian
>
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>
> Message: 5
> From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:03:39 -0400 (EDT)
> To: joshua d boyd <jdboyd at cs.millersville.edu>
> Cc: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] sbus ethernet
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
> On August 22, joshua d boyd wrote:
> > > > I've used may FSBE/DSBE cards in a few Classics. I suspect you
> > > > might have had a toasted board.
> > >
> > > Hmmm ... odd. The very same card has been running fine under SunOS
5.5.1
> > > for months. Only my NetBSD hated it.
> >
> > Which NetBSD did you try? It is possible that it is fairly newly
> > supported only under 1.5...
>
> Umm no...it's been supported since the 1.1 days if not before. I
> distinctly remember running a small news server on an LX with two
> FSBE/S cards, running a NetBSD 1.1 snapshot, at least four years ago.
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire
> Laurel, MD
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:09:24 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Dan Debertin <airboss at nodewarrior.org>
> To: <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] sbus ethernet
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, joshua d boyd wrote:
>
> > > Hmmm ... odd. The very same card has been running fine under SunOS
5.5.1
> > > for months. Only my NetBSD hated it.
> >
> > Which NetBSD did you try? It is possible that it is fairly newly
> > supported only under 1.5...
>
> This was 1.5. Sounds like most people have it working, so I must be on
> some interesting drugs ;).
>
> Dan
> --
> Dan Debertin
> airboss at nodewarrior.org
> www.nodewarrior.org
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:11:29 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Dan Debertin <airboss at nodewarrior.org>
> To: <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] sbus ethernet
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Brian Hechinger wrote:
>
> > it's LANCE ethernet, it's been supported for years.
>
> Yeah I know; that's why it seems so odd. There's a dmesg similar to the
> one that I remember getting in the port-sparc archives here:
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=netbsd-port-sparc&m=94289769808416&w=2
>
> As you can see, the onboard le attaches to an lebuffer, but the one on the
> FSBE/DSBE does not. This doesn't match up with the PROM's initial sbus
> probe after POST, which detected esp, le, and lebuffer.
>
> Dan
> --
> Dan Debertin
> airboss at nodewarrior.org
> www.nodewarrior.org
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:09:38 -0400
> From: joshua d boyd <jdboyd at cs.millersville.edu>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] hrm.
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 05:02:44PM -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 04:13:25PM -0400, James Sharp wrote:
> > >
> > > As far as I know, yes. I haven't been able to stalk her much lately
> > > since i moved offices. heh.
> >
> > ok, that closes the deal then. dave, clear out a spot in the warehouse,
i'm
> > gonna need somewhere to put my stuff until i find a place to live. i'll
be
> > down in a day or two. :)
>
> Shouldn't you wait for the URL of pics to show up to make sure that you
> two agree on what constitutes world changingly cute?
>
> --
> Joshua D. Boyd
>
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>
> Message: 9
> From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:14:31 -0400 (EDT)
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] hrm.
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
> On August 22, Brian Hechinger wrote:
> > > As far as I know, yes. I haven't been able to stalk her much lately
> > > since i moved offices. heh.
> >
> > ok, that closes the deal then. dave, clear out a spot in the warehouse,
i'm
> > gonna need somewhere to put my stuff until i find a place to live. i'll
be
> > down in a day or two. :)
>
> Uh-huh. ;)
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire
> Laurel, MD
>
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> Message: 10
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] hrm.
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:41:17 -0400
> From: Al Potter <apotter at icsa.net>
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
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> jdboyd at cs.millersville.edu said:
> > Speaking of GIS and women (and general computing), my mom needs a
> > system for dealing with rather complex route planning issues.
>
> I would look at MS MapPoint <I can't believe I'm recommending a MS product
in
> a public forum...>
>
> It's `spensive ~$250 or so, but seems VERY comprehensive and detailed. It
has
> absolutely the best route planning stuff I've ever seen.
>
>
> AL
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:55:45 -0400
> From: joshua d boyd <jdboyd at cs.millersville.edu>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] hrm.
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 04:22:44PM -0400, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote:
> > If the addresses have zipcodes, then there is a freeware solution
involving
> > PostgreSQL, a US Census mapping of zipcodes --> locations, and some
other
> > free code. Check techdocs.postgresql.org and then follow the link to
the
> > "Postgresql Cookbook" by Mello.
>
> Sigh. Used that, and started looking at other things. This does not look
> like an easy problem in any way shape or form. And, it looks highly
> costly. Complete state maps (doesn't appear that I can buy less from the
> state) are $350 for starters.
>
> I'll have to see if I can find someone at the GIS lab on campus to help
> me. I'm sure there have to be some somewhat pre written solutions, and at
> the least, they should help me actually figure out what it all means, and
> how the existing analysis tools work.
>
> --
> Joshua D. Boyd
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:56:19 -0400
> From: joshua d boyd <jdboyd at cs.millersville.edu>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] hrm.
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 05:41:17PM -0400, Al Potter wrote:
> > I would look at MS MapPoint <I can't believe I'm recommending a MS
product in
> > a public forum...>
> >
> > It's `spensive ~$250 or so, but seems VERY comprehensive and detailed.
It has
> > absolutely the best route planning stuff I've ever seen.
>
> I'll pass that on.
>
> --
> Joshua D. Boyd
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> From: "Zach Malone" <Diff at Mac.com>
> To: <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] hrm.
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 18:18:17 -0400
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
> I know someone who recieved a free copy from MS that they are not using,
if
> you really want I could get you in contact with them, they might be
willing
> to part with it, box and all, for a small sum of money.
> Zach
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Al Potter" <apotter at icsa.net>
> To: <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [rescue] hrm.
>
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> >
> > jdboyd at cs.millersville.edu said:
> > > Speaking of GIS and women (and general computing), my mom needs a
> > > system for dealing with rather complex route planning issues.
> >
> > I would look at MS MapPoint <I can't believe I'm recommending a MS
product
> in
> > a public forum...>
> >
> > It's `spensive ~$250 or so, but seems VERY comprehensive and detailed.
It
> has
> > absolutely the best route planning stuff I've ever seen.
> >
> >
> > AL
> >
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 18:18:23 -0400
> From: "Michael S. Schiller" <schiller at trillian.agrijag.com>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] hrm.
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
> > Bill Bradford wrote:
> >
> > > I wonder sometimes what the percentage of people on these
> > > lists with SOs/wives/husbands are compared to those who are
> > > single...
> >
>
> Mark me down in the Single catagory. The last gf had NO interest in
> computers, the one I'm working on now is sort of interested, so I keep a
> Win98 machine around for her to play with.
>
> -Mike
>
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> Message: 15
> From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 18:18:57 -0400 (EDT)
> To: Dan Debertin <airboss at nodewarrior.org>
> Cc: <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] sbus ethernet
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
> On August 22, Dan Debertin wrote:
> > > > Hmmm ... odd. The very same card has been running fine under SunOS
5.5.1
> > > > for months. Only my NetBSD hated it.
> > >
> > > Which NetBSD did you try? It is possible that it is fairly newly
> > > supported only under 1.5...
> >
> > This was 1.5. Sounds like most people have it working, so I must be on
> > some interesting drugs ;).
>
> Did you bring enough to share? ;)
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire
> Laurel, MD
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 16
> From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 18:23:10 -0400 (EDT)
> To: joshua d boyd <jdboyd at cs.millersville.edu>
> Cc: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] hrm.
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
> On August 22, joshua d boyd wrote:
> > > > As far as I know, yes. I haven't been able to stalk her much lately
> > > > since i moved offices. heh.
> > >
> > > ok, that closes the deal then. dave, clear out a spot in the
warehouse, i'm
> > > gonna need somewhere to put my stuff until i find a place to live.
i'll be
> > > down in a day or two. :)
> >
> > Shouldn't you wait for the URL of pics to show up to make sure that you
> > two agree on what constitutes world changingly cute?
>
> I believe that, beyond a certain level, cute is no longer a matter
> of opinion. She is FAR beyond that level.
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire
> Laurel, MD
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 18:26:23 -0400
> From: joshua d boyd <jdboyd at cs.millersville.edu>
> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> Subject: Re: [rescue] hrm.
> Reply-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 06:18:23PM -0400, Michael S. Schiller wrote:
> > Mark me down in the Single catagory. The last gf had NO interest in
> > computers, the one I'm working on now is sort of interested, so I keep a
> > Win98 machine around for her to play with.
>
> To put things rather crudely, from listening to other recount
> their SOs computer skills and useage patterns, it seems that inexperienced
> computer users are more likely to take kindly to using civilized computer
> systems. So, that would be one benefit to non geek GFs.
>
> One slight piece of supporting evidence was the article on Largo FL. They
> said that 30% of their users were windows literate, 30% mac literate, and
> the rest completely computer illiterate, and thus didn't have any
> preference what so ever for any particular type of computer.
>
> Also, there is the famous Telsa (married to Alan Cox, but she has a
> different last name, and I don't remeber it).
>
> --
> Joshua D. Boyd
>
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