Check it out http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1261111905 I want one badly, maybe 2. but I haven't got the money, alas. Latest word form engineer is that dunray will run on sun4d, too. (meaning I could justify keeping the 1000 on is I had 2 workstations for the household running on rays.) -Christof