[geeks] geeks Digest, Vol 157, Issue 2

Lionel Peterson lionel4287 at gmail.com
Mon May 16 09:26:32 CDT 2016


See below...

Lionel

> On May 16, 2016, at 8:12 AM, Phil Stracchino <phils at caerllewys.net> wrote:
>
> I don't believe a group should be barred from voicing a collective
> opinion.  I simply don't believe that it should he a "he who brings the
> most dollars to the table wins" type of argument.  Our system of
> government is supposed to be based on 'one man, one vote', not 'one
> dollar, one vote'.

Dollars spent do not equal votes - just ask Jeb Bush... Or Donald Trump.

It's convenient to conclude that dollars spent = votes received, but that
isn't how leaders are elected. The political parties chum the water with
negative items about the other political party, and the party establishment
(effectively, if not literally) picks the party nominee.

Just ask Hillary 'Super Delegate' Clinton.

>> You personally may be in favor of it, as might I, but such a decision by
the
>> court would eliminate the *possibility* of a collection of individuals
>> effectively countering the much louder political 'voice' of a well-heeled
>> individual that holds a different position.
>
> It's all but impossible for groups of individuals to counter the deep
> pockets now.

Depends on the group. Also, the track record of millionaire and billionaire
'king makers' is not looking so good right now - Sanders is rising despite the
obscene amount of money Hillary is raising.

>>> The Supreme Court *blew* that decision,
>>> and the ACLU had the wool pulled over its eyes or simply didn't think it
>>> through far enough.
>>
>> <snip>
>
> I'm not arguing that what Citizens United *intended* to do should be
> undone.  But I do feel that it needs to be re-examined to try to put a
> cap on the things it *was not* intended to do, but did anyway.  The idea
> was good.  The implementation desperately needs work.

To 'put a cap on things' would squash the political power of Greenpeace, the
Sierra Club, labor unions, and so on - I see no way to limit 'bad'
organizations without limiting 'good' organizations, whatever your definitions
of 'good' and 'bad' are.


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