[geeks] [rescue] Guns - what are they good for? - was Re: TME and Apple II and other Drive emulator questions.

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A tenured professor (Ph.D.) at Florida State Univerity (FSU) has followed
the bguns save livesb question and turned it into a statistic.  In the
1980bs he estimated that 1.5 million times during any year, just showing a
gun stopped criminal activity.  One of the NRA magazines, when it was
published in hardcopy, had one page dedicated to newspaper stories of
citizens using guns to stop criminal activity, to defend a person, or to
restrain and hold criminals until the police arrived to officially arrest
the criminals.  There are many stories in the medium of citizens using guns
to stop crime and protect people.  These stories bpop upb all over the
USA.
 The professor created the bshowing guns stopped crimeb statistic and I
have never seen that statistic disproven.  Instead, it is generally ignored
by the anti-gun side.

The NRA magazines are now published electronically and that particular
magazine probably still has the bgood use of gunsb section.

In the 1980bs a survey was taken and it was found that imprisoned criminals
were more afraid of citizens with guns than cops with guns.  The statistic
shows that when a criminal is shot, 3 times out of 4, the criminal is shot
by a citizen.



On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 10:44 AM, <microcode at zoho.com> wrote:

> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 09:31:40AM -0400, sammy ominsky wrote:
> > Someone wrote:
> >
> > >> a lot of dead kids and toddlers for no particularly good reason.
> >
> > Can you define "a lot"?  I know it happens, but I believe it's less
> often than
> > you might think.
>
> There's no way to answer that. All the statistics are based on numbers that
> are not reliable or verifiable, or are totally fabricated and in the best
> case also not granular enough.
>
> If one kid gets shot it's already too much. But if one kid drowns in the
> bathtub, or gets hit by a car, or falls off a porch, or eats some household
> cleaner or batteries it's also too much. And all of those things happen
> many
> times more often, possibly magnitudes more often than accidental shootings
> happen.
>
> And very seldom do we ever hear about the amount of lives saved, since most
> of those events go unreported. And nobody really cares about that anyway.
>
> Unfortunately, probably based on fear and intellectual dishonesty, it's
> often easier for people to get excited about wiping out stuff that they
> don't understand, have no experience with, and are in fact afraid of- as
> opposed to things that people consider useful and harmless despite the
> reality that the accidental misuse of those things constitutes a very great
> hazard in fact. It's easier to take away something from somebody else than
> give up something you own. Leftism gone amok.
>
> Bottom line, the actual numbers are meaningless when you're talking about
> ignorance, prejudice, and fear, and do-goodism. Political correctness
> uberalles, let reality be damned.
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