[geeks] Roll your own DSL

Ken Hansen geeks at sunhelp.org
Tue Aug 14 21:00:13 CDT 2001


See:

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010628.html

and

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010712.html

Ken

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Dombrowski" <legodude at hammycorp.com>
To: <geeks at sunhelp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:05 PM
Subject: [geeks] Roll your own DSL


> >> There have been "hacks" where you take two DSL "modems" and run you 
> rown
> >> high-speed network over a private twisted pair...
> >
> >How does that play out in line lengths?  For instance, say friend 
> lives 8
> >mi away.  Do we need to be within 3 miles of each other, or just both 
> of
> >us within 3 miles of our phone switch?
> 
> If you run 1 pair wire through the street then you need 8 miles of 
> cable, if you do it the normal way it goes from point A to CO to point 
> B. This is an unloaded cable - it doesn't go through any switching. You 
> can do whatever the heck you want (to a point) with the line. They 
> don't run new wire from point A to B.
> 
> >
> >Hmm. Looking around, it seems that I'm likely to be charged some
> >phenominal one time fees, but I'm not actually reading the docs for
> >verizon in my area, so I could be lucky.  Now, if only I had some 
> place to
> >run the other end...
> 
> I talked to our local phone co about this a year or so ago and they 
> basically said it couldn't be done. Usually what you want is an "Alarm 
> Loop" which is used for, duh, alarm systems. It should be as simple as 
> connecting the two pairs in the CO then connection thoes to your 
> houses. Many companies no longer offer unloaded lines because of people 
> using them to escape T1 fees or they plain don't see any need for them 
> any more. But if you do get one two DSL modems are all you need.
> 
> My friend and I are about 1 block away but across a major road. We've 
> been toying with the idea of simple running the wire down the street 
> and doing something like stapling it to the road. Or maybe walking up 
> to the sewer guys with a case or two of beer and a roll of wire. These 
> difficulties are why I was asking about wireless a while ago. That 
> brings up another question, say we have three houses in a line like so:
> 
> A----B-----C
> 
> Now A and C are too far away to talk to each other but both can reach 
> B, will B automagically regenerate/route the signal so A and C can talk 
> or does B need to do routing?
> 
> Mike
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