[SunHELP] Sun Kit is just BETTER

[Andy Bastien]

I disagree about the Ultra 10s.  Every one I've used has worked very
well, and often under some harsh conditions.  I've consulted at a
company where a U10 was working so well that they lost it.  It had been
running for so long without maintenance or even attention that no-one
who was working at the company had ever actually touched the machine and
no-one even knew where the machine was physically located.  I'm not
kidding.  It wasn't until they moved their NOC to a new location and had
to shut down all they systems that they figured out where it was.  It
was replaced by a Netra T1 and, AFAIK, was retired to light duty as
someone's screwing-around workstation.

And then there was the case of the E250 with a broken lock which had to
be reset with a screwdriver...


On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 03:59, Kevin Lee wrote:
> I have been playing with MainFrames/PC/Computers for 25+ years now and I can
> honestly say
> that the stuff we get now a days is COOL, but does not last.  I look at my
> PPro 200 Dual CPu
> that I installed BSDI Unix on in 1997. It is still running and working.
> (How many
> 1000's of Ppro DUAL CPUS are forsale on ebay? Tons...)  Simple I just bought
> 12 spare
> cpu fans, and 6 spare PS FANS.  every year I change out the fans and voila.
> Can of DUST IT
> and nice and clean.  These fuckers will run forever.  That is good pc shit.
> 
> Fast Forward to today I see sun stuff from 15 years ago still working...how
> they hell does this stuff
> last...I almost NEVER get a call from a customer running simple sun stuff
> like Ultra 1/2/30/60 NETRA
> E220R E450.  But the amount of noise that I get from PC's / GATES is just
> mind blowing.
> 
> I would guess that some of the more higher end stuff can be a little
> expensive E10K V880 STARFLUKE 9000, etc to keep going but basic  SUN stuff
> just seems to work.
> 
> However SUN is not alone at make CRAP HARDWARE, I point out the U10. This is
> the most
> ugly attempt at making SUN KIT that I have seen. I thought that the U5 was
> bad but the U5 keeps
> on Running whilst I have replaced 3 U10's in the last month.  U5 IDE but
> seems reliable.
> I guess that is why we see TONS of U10's for sale on EBAY as SUN hobbiest
> DUMP them
> by the truck load.
> 
> AXi/AXe heh its cheap and it works.
> 
> VOTE HERE FOR YOUR WORST SUN KIT.....
> 
> ps: since all sgi stuff us just too kewl (i do not own any sgi stuff any
> more) it can be excluded.
> pps: About 3 months ago I decided it made more sense for me to have hardware
> with interchangeable parts
> as if a customer called me I would always have a spare of some sort.
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