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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Help needed (Dale Ghent)
   2. Fw: Re: (timuel)
   3. Re: Fw: Re: (Will Yardley)
   4. Re: Fw: Re: (Kurt Huhn)
   5. C3D s3 vs. Expert3D-Lite (Bill Bradford)
   6. secure RPC problem (Mahadi Yusof)
   7. RE: C3D s3 vs. Expert3D-Lite (Kirkby, David)
   8. RE: C3D s3 vs. Expert3D-Lite (Kirkby, David)
   9. Unix group limitation? (Meng, Andrew)
  10. Re: Unix group limitation? (Jarrett Carver)
  11. Re: Unix group limitation? (Dale Ghent)
  12. RE: Unix group limitation? (Ravi_Thotapalli at csaa.com)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:00:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Dale Ghent <daleg at elemental.org>
To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Help needed
Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Rajesh Vadde wrote:

| Hi All,
| Does anybody is having any comparision chart between Sun IP Multi pathing
| and Sun Trunking.?
|
| I want to get the differences between these two and also what are the
| advantages of each one as compared to other.

I havnt seen any chart that specifically compares the two, but you can
probably come up with one by reading the overviews in the documentation
for each:

for IP Multipathing:

http://docs.sun.com/ab2/coll.780.2/IPNETMPADMIN/@Ab2TocView?Ab2Lang=C&Ab2Enc=iso-8859-1

for Sun Trunking:

ftp://192.18.99.138/806-4207-10/806-4207-10.pdf

/dale

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Message: 2
From: "timuel" <timuel-sunlist at voicenet.com>
To: <tech at openbsd.org>, <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 15:40:15 -0500
Subject: [SunHELP] Fw: Re:
Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org

Thanks for the "info.DOC.scr" and the "ATT00721.txt" attached to the below
email! I`ve been waiting for them my entire life!

@$$hole.

Anyone else get this or is this or am I the only one? These lists are the only
two places I use this address... watch out i guess.

http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99069&

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:48:14 -0800
From: Will Yardley <william+sun at hq.newdream.net>
To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
Organization: New Dream Network
Subject: [SunHELP] Re: Fw: Re:
Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org

timuel wrote:

> Thanks for the "info.DOC.scr" and the "ATT00721.txt" attached to the
> below email! I`ve been waiting for them my entire life!
> 
> @$$hole.

perhaps (s)he was just sending you those files to have your advice?
:>

of course if you use a different email client than OE you're less likely
to be affected by stuff like this (even though it's annoying already).

realistically, while it's annoying that some people get viruses and pass
them along, namecalling isn't really going to get you far.  trying to
explain what's going on to the person whose computer is infected is
probably going to be more effective in the long run.

w

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Message: 4
From: "Kurt Huhn" <kurt at k-huhn.com>
To: <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Fw: Re:
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:28:19 -0500
Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org

> Anyone else get this or is this or am I the only one? These lists are the
only
> two places I use this address... watch out i guess.
>

errr...whut?

I suppose you have virus protection software?  If not, it's probably your
own fault if you got infected.  Personal responsibility...

At the very minimum, complaining to two whole lists isn't going to get you
anywhere.  How about tracking down the original sender and letting him know
he has a virus?

And yes, you're the only one...

Kurt

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:49:52 -0600
From: Bill Bradford <mrbill at mrbill.net>
To: sunhelp at mrbill.net
Subject: [SunHELP] C3D s3 vs. Expert3D-Lite
Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org

Anybody know about a Creator 3D series3 versus an Expert3D-Lite, in
terms of desktop (2D, 24bit) performance?  

Bill

-- 
Bill Bradford
mrbill at mrbill.net
Austin, TX

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Message: 6
From: "Mahadi Yusof" <mahadi at cs.usm.my>
To: <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:32:33 +0800
Subject: [SunHELP] secure RPC problem
Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org

Hi all,
One of the user says he cannot login to the system. It says 'user needs
secure RPC to log in, but none available'.
What is the problem is?

-------------------------------------
Mahadi Yusof

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Message: 7
From: "Kirkby, David" <David.Kirkby at marconi.com>
To: "'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'" <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
Subject: RE: [SunHELP] C3D s3 vs. Expert3D-Lite
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:49:12 -0000
Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org

I asked exactly the same question the other day on comp.sys.sun.admin.
Although the Elite3D is the more expensive framebuffer, the Creator3D does
have some advantages. For instance, the resolution of the Elite is lower -
see
http://www.sun.com/desktop/products/graphics/expert3d/expert3djtf.html
Someone pointed out there are some benchmarks on Sun's website
http://www.sun.com/desktop/products/Graphics/graphicsbenchmks.pdf
You will notice the Elite3D wins most of them, but I think the one it looses
(Xmark93) is 2D. 

The framebuffer FAQ at 
http://www.sunhelp.org/faq/FrameBuffer.html
says "The problem is that as with the ZX, the Elite is geared towards
high-end applications. It's not a frame buffer for the casual user; in most
cases I would prefer the Creator 3D running at 1600x1200 in 24 bit mode."

I'm in the position of having an Ultra 60 and an Ultra 30. The U30 will be
sold and the U60 kept, but I don't know what framebuffer to sell. Having
tried the two for 3D use, I can detect no difference. Both are very fast on
my U60 and my monitor does not allow above 1280x1024. I think I'll keep the
Elite3D-m3, since I might get a 3D application that can make more use of it,
but are not sure. 

If anyone else has some comments, I'd like to know of them. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Bradford [mailto:mrbill at mrbill.net]
Sent: 22 January 2002 23:50
To: sunhelp at mrbill.net
Subject: [SunHELP] C3D s3 vs. Expert3D-Lite

Anybody know about a Creator 3D series3 versus an Expert3D-Lite, in
terms of desktop (2D, 24bit) performance?  

Bill

-- 
Bill Bradford
mrbill at mrbill.net
Austin, TX
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Message: 8
From: "Kirkby, David" <David.Kirkby at marconi.com>
To: "'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'" <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
Subject: RE: [SunHELP] C3D s3 vs. Expert3D-Lite
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 11:07:20 -0000
Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org

I said in the last email I compared the two framebuffers for *3D* use and
found no difference. I did not mean to say that !!!
I meant to say I compared them in *2D* applications, and found no
perceptible difference. Both seem 'instant' to my brain (perhaps my brain
has just slowed). I've not personally compared them in 3D use. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kirkby, David [mailto:David.Kirkby at marconi.com]
Sent: 23 January 2002 10:49
To: 'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'
Subject: RE: [SunHELP] C3D s3 vs. Expert3D-Lite

I asked exactly the same question the other day on comp.sys.sun.admin.
Although the Elite3D is the more expensive framebuffer, the Creator3D does
have some advantages. For instance, the resolution of the Elite is lower -
see
http://www.sun.com/desktop/products/graphics/expert3d/expert3djtf.html
Someone pointed out there are some benchmarks on Sun's website
http://www.sun.com/desktop/products/Graphics/graphicsbenchmks.pdf
You will notice the Elite3D wins most of them, but I think the one it looses
(Xmark93) is 2D. 

The framebuffer FAQ at 
http://www.sunhelp.org/faq/FrameBuffer.html
says "The problem is that as with the ZX, the Elite is geared towards
high-end applications. It's not a frame buffer for the casual user; in most
cases I would prefer the Creator 3D running at 1600x1200 in 24 bit mode."

I'm in the position of having an Ultra 60 and an Ultra 30. The U30 will be
sold and the U60 kept, but I don't know what framebuffer to sell. Having
tried the two for 3D use, I can detect no difference. Both are very fast on
my U60 and my monitor does not allow above 1280x1024. I think I'll keep the
Elite3D-m3, since I might get a 3D application that can make more use of it,
but are not sure. 

If anyone else has some comments, I'd like to know of them. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Bradford [mailto:mrbill at mrbill.net]
Sent: 22 January 2002 23:50
To: sunhelp at mrbill.net
Subject: [SunHELP] C3D s3 vs. Expert3D-Lite

Anybody know about a Creator 3D series3 versus an Expert3D-Lite, in
terms of desktop (2D, 24bit) performance?  

Bill

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mrbill at mrbill.net
Austin, TX
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Message: 9
From: "Meng, Andrew" <Andrew.Meng at capitalone.com>
To: "'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'" <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:51:10 -0500
Subject: [SunHELP] Unix group limitation?
Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org

Hello,

How many groups can a Unix id be in on Solaris, any limitation on Solaris or
other flavors of Unix? Thanks!

Andrew

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Message: 10
From: "Jarrett Carver" <solarboyz1 at hotmail.com>
To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Unix group limitation?
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:06:10 
Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org

>From man group(4)

If a user is in more groups than the system is configured for, 
{NGROUPS_MAX}, a warning  will be   given  and  subsequent  group  
specifications  will  be ignored.

To find NGROUPS_MAX

# echo ngroups_max/D | adb -k /dev/ksyms /dev/mem
physmem 79f0
ngroups_max:
ngroups_max:    16

#

>From: "Meng, Andrew" <Andrew.Meng at capitalone.com>
>Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
>To: "'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'" <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
>Subject: [SunHELP] Unix group limitation?
>Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:51:10 -0500
>
>Hello,
>
>How many groups can a Unix id be in on Solaris, any limitation on Solaris 
>or
>other flavors of Unix? Thanks!
>
>Andrew
>
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 11:07:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Dale Ghent <daleg at elemental.org>
To: "'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'" <sunhelp at sunhelp.org>
Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Unix group limitation?
Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org

On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Meng, Andrew wrote:

| Hello,
|
| How many groups can a Unix id be in on Solaris, any limitation on Solaris or
| other flavors of Unix? Thanks!

man -s4 group

/dale

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Message: 12
From: Ravi_Thotapalli at csaa.com
To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
Subject: RE: [SunHELP] Unix group limitation?
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 08:11:37 -0800
Reply-To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org

I guess its 16 (first group the primary and the rest of 15 secondary groups)
hope this helps...

ravi

-----Original Message-----
From: Meng, Andrew [mailto:Andrew.Meng at capitalone.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:51 AM
To: 'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'
Subject: [SunHELP] Unix group limitation?

Hello,

How many groups can a Unix id be in on Solaris, any limitation on Solaris or
other flavors of Unix? Thanks!

Andrew

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