[SunHELP] Re: Terrorism

[Fletcher, Joe]

All the retaliation in the world won't make them think twice. This is the
nature of fanaticism.
For whatever reason these people have an unshakeable belief that what they
are doing is right and that they will be rewarded in heaven for their
actions. The belief is irrational, it's origins may date from a thousand
years ago but changing it's implacable nature will not be achieved by
randomly killing those perceived to be associated with the actual
perpetrators.

Ultimately all this act has done is increase the misery in the world. It has
achieved nothing.
Sadly, until we evolve to a state where these fanatical mindsets no longer
exist we can expect more actions of this nature in future.



-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Dikeman [mailto:fred at workstation.net]
Sent: 14 September 2001 15:05
To: sunhelp at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Re: Terrorism


Your right, attacking terrorists with with swift, violent and merciless
retaliation wont stop them but it sure as hell will make them think twice.
The Israeli's have used this methodology very effectively.

American isolationist pacifism in WWII cost our allies tens of thousands of
lives.    We have taken the peace loving person approach for years while our
embassy personnel have been held hostage, assassinated, kidnapped tortured
and
hung , multiple embassies bombed,  two military barracks bombed, a naval
ship
bombed.  Over a 1000 Americans dead.  Now there are 5000 American dead on
our
own soil.  At what point do you draw the line Bob?  When your afraid to go
to
a baseball game, visit the Capitol in Washington, put your daughter on an
airplane or maybe just going to the grocery store?

Thomas Cameron wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Bob Minvielle wrote:
>
> >
> > My only hope is that the bulk of the population does not
> > think about retribution just yet, and that we think clearly
> > about our future. I am a peace loving person, and personally
> > agree with what history has shown us: Attacking terrorists
> > does not stop terrorism.
>
> Bullshit.  I'm a peace-loving person, as well, but these bastards have
> murdered thousands of US and other countries' citizens.  I hope that we
> bomb the terrorists and anyone who aided them back into the stone age.
>
> > We need to talk to others, in our country and especially others
> > about how to more secure ourselves against this sort of attack.
> > Anyone been through an airport as of late? I can tell you
> > that we, ourselves, are mostly to blame for this tragedy.
>
> You are one sick person.  How dare you make a statement like this?  I bet
> a rapist's defense attorney would LOVE to have you on the jury.  We are
> not to blame here - these scum are to blame.  If we are guilty of
> anything, it is of being open and allowing lots of personal freedom.
> Maybe because we as a country are good, we expect that from others, and we
> let our gaurd down.
>
> > Do not get me wrong, this is horrific, and I mourn those
> > lost... at the same time, we should not act with haste or
> > anger, but look rationally at what has happened and see what
> > peaceful means we can take to prevent it in the future.
>
> Statements like this make me sick.  We should react - quickly, violently,
> and with no mercy whatsoever.  We are the strongest nation in the world,
> but we have been entirely too kind and forgiving as regards to terrorists.
> That must stop.  Potential terrorists should believe that anyone, anywhere
> is safe from these acts, because these acts will bring down punishment too
> terrible to imagine.
>
> While I totally disagree with your opinion, I staunchly support your right
> to express it.  I think you would not find that under the Taliban, and
> others of their ilk.
>
> --
>                     --  Thomas Cameron  --
>     Red Hat Certified Engineer --  TurboLinux Certified Trainer
>              --    Certified NetWare Engineer --
> Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer -- Microsoft Certified Trainer
>
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