[SunHELP] Root Passwd

Fri Jun 22 07:58:27 CDT 2001

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I would have to agree with this 100%.  If the person is not 
cooperating, take it to management.  A breach of security like
this is totally unacceptable.

Dennis L. Lund

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From: Przyjazny, Martin [mailto:martin.przyjazny at eds.com]
Sent: 21 June 2001 14:11
To: 'sunhelp at sunhelp.org'
Subject: RE: [SunHELP] Root Passwd

Or instead of perpetuating the non-cooperative spirit,
talk to him frankly, and involve management.

The sysadmin IS management.

>From a sysadmin point of view there are limits to what a user is and isn't
allowed to do.
DIY privilege elevation is strictly on the "DO NOT" list. The user has
already proved to be 
uncooperative by not handing over the script/binary.

In most organisations such behaviour warrants disciplinary action. If one of
your users compromises a system that you run what would your reaction be? A
polite, "please don't do that", isn't what's in the books. I think most
admins would use, "You're fired!"

I may sound harsh but I don't think I'm being unreasonable.

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I would have to agree with this 100%.  If the person=
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curity like</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dennis L. Lund</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Przyjazny, Martin [<A HREF=3D"mailto:martin.przyja=
zny at eds.com">mailto:martin.przyjazny at eds.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 21 June 2001 14:11</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: [SunHELP] Root Passwd</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Or instead of perpetuating the non-cooperative spirit,</F=
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>talk to him frankly, and involve management.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The sysadmin IS management.</FONT>
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From a sysadmin point of view there are limits to what a =
user is and isn't
 allowed to do.
 DIY privilege elevation is strictly on the "DO NOT&=
quot; list. The user has
 already proved to be 
 uncooperative by not handing over the script/binary.</FO=
NT>

In most organisations such behaviour warrants disciplinar=
y action. If one of
 your users compromises a system that you run what would =
your reaction be? A
 polite, "please don't do that", isn't what's i=
n the books. I think most
 admins would use, "You're fired!"

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I may sound harsh but I don't think I'm being unreasonabl=
e.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>MetaPack</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>London EC1R 4PF </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Tel: +44 (0) 20 7843 6720 </FONT>
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