[Sunhelp] (no subject)

[Reagen Ward]

HP-UX is DEFINATELY not a good learning UNIX, as it's amazingly non-standard and
weird.  I love the hardware (6CPU N closely beats a 24 CPU 6500 at OLTP, and Sun
advertises this fact, thinking that the N is more expensive), but the OS is
utter crap for the most part.  "I'm sorry, we don't fully support classless
subnetting, NIS, TCP-based NFS3, kernel modules... Oh, QA?  Our customers are
our QA."  I actually had a sales rep feed me that line about QA when I was
complaining that HP so many buggy software products.

Only real advantage:  Integrated Volume Manager.  BIG advantage.

Though, you can get a 712/60 for $50 or so these days, and that's a very useable
desktop, and it uses PC parts.

I deal with both on a regular basis (about 120 HPs, 80 Suns), and I'd suggest 
an old SPARC4/5 for a learner.  It runs Solaris, BSD, and Linux, making it a 
very flexible learning platform.  If you find a cheap HP, they're very capable
machines, but you will be limiting yourself to knowing HP-UX rather than a more
standard UNIX.

Reagen

On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 09:49:20AM -0400, Fuerst, Robert C. (Chris) wrote:
> OK - One reply - We tested our sun Ultra 170's against whatever HP had
> equivalent at the time about 4 years ago.
> We ran the CAD software faster so HP said "whoa - you must have something
> set up wrong" - Their tech rep flew out, played with the thing for about 5
> hours, eventually broke it so it couldn't boot.  Took off for the plane and
> said "I guess box it up and send it back".
> Yeah - You go get that HPUX box, I won't get in the way.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Kevin Wood [SMTP:kevin_wood at scotiacapital.com]
> > Sent:	Friday, July 28, 2000 5:12 PM
> > To:	sunhelp at sunhelp.org
> > Subject:	Re: [Sunhelp] (no subject)
> > 
> > Hey ;
> > 
> > Forget Sun (untested, over priced  technology) , go for a HPUX box..
> > 
> > Humingbird Maestro NFS  rules
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Wally wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi there,
> > > Do you know where I can get a fairly used Sun SPARC machine.I would like
> > to
> > > buy one and learn  about the hardware
> > > I'm new to this and would welcome any suggestions.
> > > I live in Toronto and so any suggestions  concerning vendors should
> > please
> > > put that fact into consideration.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Wally Obimakinde.
> > > Hummingbird Communications LTD.
> > > TEL:1-416-496-2200X2316
> > > E-mail:oobimaki at hcl.com
> > > URL:http://www.hummingbird.com
> > >
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